Starbucks Billionaire: You Can’t Have Healthcare Or College

[Mr Puggsly]

Machiavellian said:

Mr Puggsly said:

No... Obamacare was poorly designed from the start and rushed through congress.

Obama made a lot of changes to healthcare in this country, some I like and some just made it difficult for working people to afford healthcare.

In my opinion, if people feel "free" healthcare as the greatest and most important thing a country can provide for its people I can get behind that via some sort of subsidies for those who need them (for legal citizens preferably). But they have to focus on that alone and quit asking for a total welfare state which could never be achieved and kills their platform.

Actually it was not rushed through congress.  Unlike the abomination that was the republicans bill they tried to pass,  Obama actually tried to get the ACA though bipartisan manner by bring in a more conservative approach to the plan which or course was structured on Mitt Romney's plan.  The reason no Republican voted for Obamacare was not that the plan was unsound it was because anything that made Obama look good was an absolute no no, especially since they wanted to make him a one term president and stated so.  There is evidence back during that time that showed that Republicans were on a plan to oppose anything Obama supported all the while trying to act as if they cared to make him look bad. 

thought this is an opinion piece, it pretty much describe why the Republicans couldn't actually find a better plan then the ACA because the ACA was their plan maybe with a few wrinkles but those parts could have been ironed out if they actually wanted to make a better plan then scrape anything with the word Obama in it.

https://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/fess-up-gop-obamacare-is-bipartisan/

Republicans didn't just oppose Obama because they wanted to make him look bad, they simply have different ideologies. Its like trying to get democrats to support anything Trump does, even stuff people actually want like getting tough on immigration and lower taxes.

I think American people primarily just want cheaper and easier access to healthcare plans. I'm more in the center about this. I do see Healthcare.gov as a good solution to help the minority in this country that don't quite have access to good healthcare for various reasons. It arguably needs better options though and perhaps the subsidies can be overly generous in country with many safety nets already.

Right now though democrats are leaning into the single payer idea more than fixing Obamacare. Obama felt like a moderate compared to where dems are going now.