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zorg1000 said:
potato_hamster said:

Okay. So there's titles on Wikipedia that aren't on Nintendo's IR page, clearly. Should these games not count because they aren't on Nintendo's pages? I mean it's obvious that there is an objectively correct fact here. I'm just no longer sure which one of us have come to it. I'll concede that ground to you. It doesn't really matter much anyways. My entire point was about how low of a bar people are setting, and I used the Wii U as an example of that. If that one turns out to be poor - my bad. But there are still other platforms I could have used to illustrate my point, so it doesn't really make sense to get hung up on an example when it was one of many.

And I'm not brushing off any legit data as moving goalposts. Quite the opposite. I'm saying that me brushing off those titles can be seen as "moving the goalposts" , and I can understand that. But again, I'm poking fun at how low that bar is. If you need to dip into that pool to justify a point your making, it's a pretty shaky point in my opinion.

You are the one who brought up Wii U, not me. All ive been doing is showing you how its not like Wii U at all when you said Wii U support was better in year 2 which is completely false.

My original statemet was that in general 3rd party games are selling well because support is increasing and its not just from specific types of games, games from all sorts of devs/pubs and genres are seeing increased support.

Note that im saying well, not great or amazing.

I never said it was like the Wii U. I said the bar you were setting to measure determine that third party games are selling well on the Switch can also be used to determine that third party games sold well on the Wii U. According to the numbers I got from Wikipedia, support for year two was slightly better. I'm willing to take your numbers as factual for the sake of argument, but let's not act like I just threw out some random comment without stats.

But honestly, while I wouldn't disagree with the fact that support is increasing in variety of ways, its just that's still not a very high bar for saying third party games are selling well, is it? There really should be more third party games for any console in its second year over its first. There should be an increase in more risky/niche third party titles after the first year of a consoles life. This is the bare minimum. As I replied to someone before - if someone said in the PS4's second year, the notable third party support was a dark souls remaster, a south park game, two annual sports games, warframe,  a dragonball fighter game, and a doom remake, you'd probably wonder what the fuck Sony was doing for third parties to be supporting it so poorly. Frankly - that really isn't an impressive list at all, it's just a hell of a lot better than what Nintendo fans have gotten used to over the last decade or so.