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potato_hamster on 12 August 2018
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Alkibiádēs said:
potato_hamster said:

What are the sales of Rocket League, Undertale and Stardew Valley on Switch vs other platforms? Do you actually know that? Or are you just speculating that these games are selling sell on Switch compared to how they sold on PS4/X1/Vita/whatever? Because I can't find any even quasi solid numbers besides sales milestones,most of which aren't platform specific.

Ignore it? You haven't posted anything relevant. Great. These games at least made money on the Switch, but from what I can see, All of those games might have sold much  better on PS4 or X1 or Vita or PC. Even still, even assuming their Switch sales are legitimately impressive. That's three games out of thousands of third party games.  You might as well argue that the Wii U had good third party sales using such flimsy, pedestrian metrics.

Heck, take Minecraft,ZombiU and Just Dance. "Look how these three third party games sold on the Wii U! Third Party games definitely sold well on Wii U!" -  No one ever.

Yeah, I know that 500K sales can be a huge difference maker for a small indie studio of a couple dozen people. Great, you can list a couple dozen studios that are happy with a few hundred thousand sales, and no one lost their jobs. Good for them.. Still, that doesn't mean third party games are "selling well on the Swtich" just because you can list some examples of small studios that are happy with small sales.. You can find dozens of similar examples for pretty much every video game console made in the past 20 years. How does this mean anything.

We know from Steamspy how much many of these indie games sold on PC and Switch compares favorably. We also know indie games sell less on PS4 than on Steam. 

According to Steamspy Overcooked sold between 500K - 1M copies. On Switch the latest figure we have is 600K copies sold (and at a higher price to boot). 

Again, we're not talking about obscure indie games here, but indie games that reached an audience of millions of people like Rocket League, Stardew Valley, Undertale, Dead Cells, Shovel Knight, Hollow Knight, etc. are huge. 

Your Wii U comparison also makes no sense as third party support for the Wii U dropped off a cliff after the launch period while the Switch continues to get great third party support. Dark Souls Remastered, South Park: The Stick of Truth, NBA 2K19, Fifa 19, Warframe, Dragon Ball FighterZ and Doom Eternal are good examples of this. And LOL at the Vita comment. There's a reason why the Vita has such a lackluster library of games. 

Even the Rage 2 devs are looking into a possible Switch version: 

https://variety.com/2018/gaming/news/quakecon-rage-2-interview-1202902688/

What are the sales numbers for Switch for these titles? I can't find them. Also steam sales aren't the same as ps4 or xbox or even total PC sales. Then you make a generalization about how indies sell on PS4, and assume that generalization applies to the titles in question?

I thought you said you had facts.

Then you randomly bring up overcooked? You openly admit that at best we can assume that it sold less than it did on Steam. How did it fare on PS4 or Xbox? You have no idea.

My Wii U example is just fine. You mentioned 7 games. Seven Two of which are sports games, and four of which are ports/remasters of old games. Whoopdedoo. Notice how EA isn't bring any of its other sports games? Notice how Bethesda isn't bringing Fallout 79 to the Switch (or Fallout 4 for that matter) Notice how Ubisoft isn't bring Assassin's Creed, Ghost Recon, or any of its other major titles, and instead is bringing in the least resource heavy games they can bring like South Park?

The Vita has such a lackluster library of games, I agree, yet its getting sequels to games the Vita and Switch have in common that the developers have opted to not bring to the Switch. That has to be a hard pill to swallow that in 2018 there's even one developer that brought a game to both Vita and Switch last year that decided to go ahead with the Vita port instead of a Switch port for its next game in the series.

There's rumors that yet another Bethesda game might come to Switch? Hold the fucking phone, Batman! That's unbelievable! Well that just changes everything!