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Jumpin said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

Didn't he say something about there not being a sandbox Mario since Sunshine, in one of his videos? Sure, wish Arlo was still an active member here. 

Could be, I didn't listen to the video, just read the commentary (as I don't have audio at the moment). So if I got his argument wrong, then you can nix that and apply it to those other youtubers that keep trying to push "Odyssey is a sandbox game and that's why its awesome" angle. It's silly, and it seems to come from Gamecube apologist channels like Commonwealth Realm. The reason being that they keep drawing parallels between Sunshine and Odyssey, and try to pretend that Sunshine was the last great Mario game because it was the last Mario game which was a sandbox; the "Gamecube didn't deserve to fail and Wii didn't deserve to succeed" apologetics are so transparent on sites like Commonwealth Realm that it's laughable.

Many people love the Galaxy games. Sunshine was the last 3d Mario Game that was as open as 64. And that game released 16 years ago.