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Soundwave on 20 June 2018
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thismeintiel said:
DarthMetalliCube said:

Fatigue is definitely part of the decline, but I would add that I think it's the perfect storm of factors. The fact that there's a Star Wars movie every year cheapens the brand and tempers excitement and hype, but I think it's also the dumbing down of the story, shoddy 1-dimensional world building, lack of character development and personalities, and the blatant shoving of social justice and identity politics down people's throats, along with head scratching "causes" that plain don't belong in Star Wars movies like lame animal rights stuff. It's like an elementary school student's understanding of governments, society, and politics..

But it's also the story breaking its own rules and ceasing to make any sense within its own universe, pissing on the lore, and watering down the concept of Jedi and the force even more than Lucas' stupid midiclorian bs ever did. It's just become another Marvel universe where "anyone and everyone can just have unlimited force powers.. just because! Screw the Jedi stuff. Screw the Sith. Screw good and evil.." So what's left? More lame super hero garbage people have seen a million times. Star Wars was never really meant to be cookie cutter super or action hero movies. To me it was more a retelling of classical mythology, epic tales, and fantasy in space. Some of the stuff was even biblical in nature. There were far more complexities to it than people realize, yet it was also a clear cut tale of morality and good vs evil. I recognize very few of these traits now.

It is fatigue, but not SW fatigue. No, it's bad/mediocre SW fatigue. If the film's had actually been good/great, no one would be complaining about 1 SW every year. Hell, Marvel put out 3 and they all saw/will see success. 1 a year isn't going to kill a brand. 1 a year of divisive garbage, that the movie company defends by name calling dissenters, will. 

It's cute when Star Wars fans think Star Wars is automatically equivalent to Marvel. 

It's not. Marvel has 70+ year of established *stories* and fully fleshed out characters with real character arcs and thousands of established plots (like say the Infinity Gauntlet which was written 25 years+ ago) set in "anything goes" universe that can go into dozens of different genres, sci-fi, action, magic, urban heroes, literal kings/queens, horror, hell Marvel can have dinosaurs too. 

Star Wars is a bunch of boring celibate monks who's personality is mainly their lightsaber (oooooh purple lightsaber! what an awesome character!), smugglers, or Sith. 

Remove Harrison Ford from Star Wars and it gets exposed for being very dull because no one else is remotely relatable in those movies. Starlord, Thor, Peter Parker, Tony Stark, even Deadpool all these characters have tons of personality, flaws, character arcs ... Boba Fett? Fuck outta here with that, that's an action figure with a neat looking mask and nothing more, that's supposed to carry an entire fucking movie?

Nothing else is Marvel (as DC is finding out). Star Wars is more like Jurassic Park or Lord of the Rings if you made a yearly movie with unconnected side films for those, by year 3/4 you would start to see franchise fatigue unless you have an epic story conclusion going on. But if LOTR did shit like Fellowship (2001), The Dwarves Rebellion (2002), The Two Towers (2003), Legolas: The College Years (2004), Return of the King Part I (2005), Gimli: The Movie (2006), Return of the King Part II (2007) ... people would be tired of that shit by 2004. 

Last edited by Soundwave - on 20 June 2018