The_Liquid_Laser said:
Megiddo said:
Acting like Sony is screwed for the PS5 is hilarious. They have dominated the generation pretty much from the start. They continue to have an extremely strong first-party studio lineup which continues to produce profitable titles. They abandoned the dwindling handheld market in which they were only losing money.
They've pretty much taken all the right steps and hopefully will have learned a bit of humility after the transition from PS2 to PS3 but history does tend to repeat itself.
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Every generation is different. Sony dominated like never before with the PS2, then they totally botched the launch of PS3. More importantly Microsoft and Nintendo were both tough competition in Generation 7. The biggest reason Sony did poorly in Generation 7 is that their competition was just better. Then in Generation 8, both Microsoft and Nintendo totally botched their launches. The PS4 didn't do anything special with their launch at all, and yet they dominated Generation 8.
My point is that the competition matters. Nintendo Switch is serious competition. If they don't take Nintendo seriously this time, then the PS5 is screwed.
zorg1000 said:
Ya its really silly to think PS5 would be in trouble by releasing 3-4 years after Switch.
We have seen that Switch & PS4 sales are not affected by one another based on the fact Switch had one of the best launch years in history at the same time that PS4 had its peak year.
PS4 and Switch are different enough that they can easily coexist/complement each other and there is no reason to believe a similar situation wont happen with PS5.
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If you don't think Nintendo and Sony are competing then you are in for one hell of a surprise. The reason both consoles can do well in the same year is because Nintendo is in both the handheld and home console markets simultaneously. Sony can win the home market and Nintendo can win the handheld market and then both do well the same year. But if Nintendo wins the home market then Sony is going to get spanked.
In previous generations, it was considered an advantage to be able to release your console a year or more before the competition. Now everyone is acting like it doesn't matter at all. If Sony gives Nintendo a 3-4 year head start, they are seriously screwed.
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So let me get this straight........the Switch is not even hindering the PS4 but it is somehow going to screw the PS5 and that makes sense to you? And yes releasing ahead of the others is go8d but doesn't mean it will take the gen. Now I personally consider the Switch Gen 9 but it is listed as Gen 8 so that is something to consider as well.
xMetroid said:
LethalP said:
The Switch isn't selling to the same market as the PS4. The Switch is selling to the Nintendo market, the one they carved out for themselves. The library isn't robust enough to replace the PlayStation, it gets gimped versions of the very odd third party game like FIFA and Doom, but the full vision is realised the PS/Xbox/PC. It's a completely different demographic for Switch.
The industry and public don't view the Switch as an alternative to the PS4 or Xbox One. If they did and it was in the same market it would have directly eaten into the sales of the PS4, but it hasn't. On the contrary the PS4 has had two of it's fastest selling years so far all while the Switch was on the market.
The Switch releasing 3 years prior to PS5 means nothing for the growth of a PlayStation console. If Xbox got a 3 year head start that would be significant, because they sell to the same demographic and those same people who got an Xbox in those 3 years could have bought a PS5 instead. PS and Xbox are the core consumer base, the Switch isn't.
Why don't you know this? Fucks sake, you know what I find strange about gaming? It's the only medium I know of where it's die hard practitioners don't even know how their own industry works.
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Hmm no i don't agree with that. A lot of PC gamers are going on Switch instead of buying a PS4/Xbox as a console anymore.
Also PS4 pro, Scorpio and Switch are all relatively new and really expensive products so im sure if a new generation starts in 2019/2020 they might need a lot to convince people when you know there main argument is graphics and Pro and X are already doing so well already in that departement... Games take so long to make and we might see an even longer drought on PS5/Xbox? Than PS4 and One had since there is still huge games coming in 2 years and more and there is no way they will launch big games on brand new system, it will be cross gen as usual.
I think sony might have to innovate this time to really change the game and convince people. But usually when they win a gen they act lazy af.
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Wait where did you get that info that A Lot of PC gamers are buying the Switch over the XB1/PS4?
Also Sony won PS1 to PS2 and didn't act lazy. They WAY over priced the PS3 but were not lazy that gen either. So why do you say they get lazy when they win?
