https://pcgamesn.com/nvidia-amd-tsmc-3d-gpu
TSMC just announced they have some sort of wafer stacking tech which will allow for chips to be stacked instead of simply shrunk to increase yields and performance and reduce cost. The article focuses on GPU stacking, but also mentions Intel has patents on CPU stacking, so I'm sure TSMC probably has something available or in the works for CPU as well. The article also mentions stacking 16nm chips, which PS4 and Pro use now. Not sure how well this is going to work in terms of thermal dissipation though.
| numberwang said: PS4 will not switch to 7nm, no money in the banana stand. PS5 will use 14/12nm ZEN cores if it comes in 2019/20 because that will be established, cheap and functional tech by then. If PS5 will wait for one more CPU cycle to 2021+ we might see 7nm CPUs in a console. |
If PS5 has to wait that long for 7nm, and it does wait for it, then you would almost have to assume that PS uses 12nm or 10nm for a PS4 SS and Pro S by this coming or next holiday.
| NextGen_Gamer said: TSMC just announced it has started volume production of it's 7-nm FinFET node, with "over a dozen of customers with tens of designs" using it. That means you will see 7-nm products en mass later this fall, including as mentioned above Apple's latest A12 SoC. However, both Sony and Microsoft usually like to wait a year or so for issues to work themselves out before switching to a new process. So here is what I think is going to happen: Feb. 2019 - PlayStation 5 announcement E3 2019 - Major PS5 push, last of super PS4 exclusives shown. PS5 price & release date announcement Sep. 2019 - PS4 Super Slim and PS4 Pro Slim announced, both with price drops October 2019 - PS4 Super Slim using 7-nm processor released at $199 with 500GB HDD October 2019 - PS4 Pro Slim using 7-nm processor released at $299 with 1TB HDD November 2019 - PS5 using 7-nm processor released at $399 with 2TB HDD That would create a pretty unbeatable lineup going into holiday 2019. |
I think not only is that WAY too much hardware all at once, but nothing should stand in the way of selling as many PS5's as possible and having not only a strong launch but a strong first year of sales. Announcing a bunch of new, sleek, cheaper PS4's in the same time frame is most certainly going to hinder that. Sales are sales, but there is only so much you can allow PS4 to hold PS5 back, before it becomes a potential problem when competing with 'XB2'. You can assume PS5 would have an entire year lead with XB1X only launching late 2017, but what if 'XB2' is ready to go at about the same time? The safer bet would be to get PS4 SS and Pro S out late 2018 if possible, and give PS5 the entire hardware spotlight come holiday 2019.
Last edited by EricHiggin - on 02 May 2018
