| Jumpin said: Really? The biggest enemies of the porn industry are very clearly right-wing governments and activist groups. And if you think masculine = dominance, and feminine = submissive, then I don't think you have actually seen a lot of mainstream porn... or paid for sex in Amsterdam before :P |
You're right: being a relatively poor American woman lacking both the resources and desire to engage in sex tourism, I don't have that experience going for me.
I do, however, have data concerning the general contents of pornography. Approximately 88% of porn scenes contain violent acts (such as slapping, choking, etc.) and 49% include verbal aggression (mostly name-calling). Almost all (94%) of these portrayals of aggressive behavior are directed towards women, and about three-fourths of them are specifically committed by men. The women are almost always portrayed as finding these experiences pleasurable. I think this paints a very clear picture of what social roles are being portrayed in aggregate.
| o_O.Q said: "In my view of it, rape culture is any environment wherein predatory sexual behavior is treated as normal or trivial. I trust you'll forgive me for embracing this broad, intolerant definition thereof." what would you define as predatory in this context?
"there is not a single country that treats women as the equals of men overall. " so in your view men and women are the same when not socialised differently?
" For a man to want to be a "manly" man is for him to want to be a controlling man" what about working out and wanting to be strong? is it bad for a man to want to be able to squat 600 pounds? |
Answering, again in order of the questions asked:
-By predatory I essentially mean unwanted sexual aggression; namely, sexual harassment and assault. I'm just using that as a blanket term to cover all of it.
- In the question of whether gendered behavior by men and women is mostly the product of nature or instead of nurture, men tend to conclude that it is mostly nature, while women tend to conclude that it is mostly nurture; social conditioning to behave in certain ways. Who is right? Well let's put it this way: Scientific findings as yet seem to reinforce the first view only to the degree that female scientists are absent from the picture. Remember that the next time you hear some guy online cite "evolutionary biology" or "science" in the abstract as an argument against feminist ideas that challenge gender roles.
-What I would object to in your last question is the simplistic equivocation of physical strength with being male, as though the weaker man is less legitimately male...or as though the physically fit woman is less legitimately female because she lifts weights. These gendered assumptions have a real impact on the way people live their lives. I've spoken to many women over the years who have told me that they deliberately avoid activities like weight-lifting out of fear that they'll "bulk up like a man", i.e. become less female as a result. I don't think that gendered stigmas like that should exist. Weight-lifting lifting should just be weight-lifting. It shouldn't be thought of as specifically male.
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