Predicting Switch sales

[Jumpin]

JRPGfan said:

Jumpin said:

I don’t think 3DS is even close to the Wii, to be honest. Some of the games on Wii included:

 

• Super Mario Galaxy  (I give you this one)
  
• Wii Sports
• Legend of Zelda  (3ds has plenty of)
  
• Super Paper Mario  (this was a horrible paper mario game)
  
• Metroid Prime
• Fire Emblem (3ds has plenty of, and better version that the wii had)
• WarioWare  (really?)
• Forever Blue/Endless Ocean
• Resident Evil 4  (3ds has plenty of)
• Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles (3ds has plenty of)
• Call of Duty 3 and 4 
  
• Medal of Honour
• Okami
• Fifa  (sports games, who cares really?)
  
• PES  (sports games, who cares really?)
• Tiger Woods PGA (sports games, who cares really?)
• Madden NFL  (sports games, who cares really?)
• SSX (sports games, who cares really?)
• Tony Hawk (sports games, who cares really?)
• Need for Speed
• Far Cry
• Bully
• Splinter Cell
• Prince of Persia
• Driver
• Guitar Hero
• Rock Band
• The Godfather
• Scarface
• Zack and Wiki
• Geometry Wars (indies?)
  
• The Simpsons Game
• Trauma Center
• Elebits
• Spyro the Dragon
• No More Heroes
• Red Steel
• Harvest Moon (Story of Seasons) (3ds has plenty of)

And that’s just one year of releases.

Since we’re counting games a console has access to, the Wii had access to the Gamecube library and the most extensive back catalogue virtual console of any console existing. 

The real story is that Wii launched with what turned out to be the biggest killer app in videogame history, and capped off its first year with one of the most critically acclaimed games in history. In its lifetime the 3DS didn’t have any games of this caliber.

 

 

But how many "meaty" proper full length high quality RPGs did the wii have? man it was slim pickings.
3DS owns the Wii+Gamecube when it comes to RPGs to a degree, I think 3DS is a better game library.

I dont "feel" like the wii had that many standout titles tbh.
You got a Wii, the must haves where like:

Xenoblade Chronicles (which 3ds also has)
the Mario Galaxy (I&II) games
Resident Evil 4
DKC-Returns
Skyward Sword

5 big "must have"s imo, but the 3DS has tons of games at that level.

You claim that 3DS has tons of games of Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 level games? Where are they?

http://www.gamerankings.com/browse.html?site=wii&cat=0&year=0&numrev=1&sort=0&letter=&search=

Top 10 3DS Games: 

	3DS	The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D GREZZO/Nintendo, 2011	93.89% 59 Reviews
	3DS	Fire Emblem: Awakening Intelligent Systems/Nintendo, 2013	92.52% 52 Reviews
	3DS	Pushmo Intelligent Systems/Nintendo, 2011	91.50% 21 Reviews
	3DS	The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds Nintendo, 2013	90.55% 55 Reviews
	3DS	The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask 3D GREZZO/Nintendo, 2015	90.39% 58 Reviews
	3DS	Super Mario 3D Land Nintendo, 2011	90.09% 56 Reviews
	3DS	Fire Emblem Fates: Special Edition Intelligent Systems/Nintendo, 2016	89.07% 22 Reviews
	3DS	Colors! 3D Collecting Smiles, 2012	88.38% 13 Reviews
	3DS	Pokemon Sun Game Freak/Nintendo, 2016	87.94% 52 Reviews
	3DS	Pokemon Y Game Freak/Nintendo, 2013	87.89%

Nope, I don't see them. And don't say "Super Mario 3D Land" because it's not even close.  Perhaps you thought the 4th port of Ocarina of Time? Or Pushmo?

I'll put in the Top 10 Wii games as an exclamation point:

	WII	Super Mario Galaxy Nintendo, 2007	97.64% 78 Reviews
	WII	Super Mario Galaxy 2 Nintendo EAD Tokyo /Nintendo, 2010	97.35% 56 Reviews
	WII	The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess Nintendo, 2006	94.58% 84 Reviews
	WII	World of Goo 2D Boy, 2008	94.04% 23 Reviews
	WII	The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword Nintendo, 2011	93.15% 61 Reviews
	WII	Super Smash Bros. Brawl Game Arts/Nintendo, 2008	92.84% 78 Reviews
	WII	Metroid Prime Trilogy Retro Studios/Nintendo, 2009	92.35% 34 Reviews
	WII	Xenoblade Chronicles Monolith Soft/Nintendo, 2012	91.74% 42 Reviews
	WII	Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition Capcom, 2007	91.59% 61 Reviews
	WII	Rayman Origins UBlart Montpellier/Ubisoft, 2011	91.27%

And crossing out a bunch of games doesn't make them disappear. Wii Sports was the most successful killer app in videogame history.
You crossed out Resident Evil 4 and said 3DS has this, what?
You crossed of Super Paper Mario, claiming it was horrible, in what regard? Critically the game scored very well. Perhaps you meant commercially? Nope, it's the best selling in the franchise.

You claim the 3DS has "meaty high-quality RPGs," where are these? It has a Fire Emblem and an inferior port of Xenoblade Chronicles which doesn't work on most 3DSs. You mentioned the backwards compatible DS to further flesh it out. Since you count ports and backwards compatibility, well... the Wii has enough ammunition to demolish the 3DS multiple times over:
* Xenoblade Chronicles
* Rune Factory Frontier and Oceans
* The Last Story
* Tales of Symphonia 1 and 2
* Pandora's Tower
* Little King's Story
* Skies of Arcadia Legends
* Dragon Quest X and Tales of Graces in Japan/Import
* Fire Emblem Path of Radiance & Radiant Dawn
* Final Fantasy 1, 4, 6, Mystic Quest (SNES version), and AY
* Secret of Mana
* Chrono Trigger
* Phantasy Star 1, 2, 3, 4
* Ys Book 1 and 2
* Star Tropics
* Super Mario RPG
* Paper Mario 1 and 2
* Beyond Oasis
* Shining Force 1 and 2
* ActRaiser
* Breath of Fire
* Ogre Battle 1 and 64

From what I can tell, you haven't been able to show how 3DS's lineup matches one year of Wii. It certainly doesn't top the lifetime critically or commercially; ports and backward compatibility or not.

 

Don’t get me wrong, I loved the 3DS, but it ranks lowest of Nintendo’s handhelds for me, and doesn’t come anywhere near the Wii. I’d even say the Switch already has a more interesting library as I definitely played a lot more Switch in its first year than perhaps any two years of the 3DS - and I am primarily a handheld gaming fan.

Last edited by Jumpin - on 08 April 2018