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sundin13 on 07 April 2018
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CrazyGamer2017 said:
sundin13 said:

Wait, so you think that the individual is at fault for doing something that they had no reasonable expectation would result in negative consequences? That doesn't even make sense.

Like if a plane crashed into someone's house (and they live nowhere near an airport or anything involving planes), would you go up to the victim and say "you are an idiot. Take responsibility for your mistake of buying a house in a totally safe neighborhood."?

Like, what even is this argument? People should take responsibility for their mistake of making entirely reasonable decisions?

No, just accept that there is no reason to blame the victim here and move on.

Oh boy you guys don't make it easy on me do you? AGAIN for the millionth time, WHERE do I say that the victim must be blamed?

I said the victim needs to take responsibility for a mistake, not for the crime, you BLAME someone for the crime, not for a mistake.

If I may say something to all that have been arguing against me on this issue, how can I make you understand that I obviously understand that a victim of rape is NOT to be blamed for the crime (obviously) or even the mistake. That victim needs simply to take responsibility like we all do in whatever decisions we take in our lives.

I'm not sure where you are pulling this weird semantic argument that the word "blame" only relates to crime, but that simply isn't how that word works.

Lets look up the word "blame" real quick:

"Assign responsibility for a fault or wrong"

Now what are you saying we should do again? Telling someone to take responsibility for a mistake? That is almost verbatim the definition of the word "blame".

But it isn't a crime, so it isn't relevant, right?

And again, you use this turn of phrase: "That victim needs simply to take responsibility like we all do in whatever decisions we take in our lives."

What does that mean? If I've asked you once, I've asked you 100 times. How does one take responsibility in this context? What does that mean?