CrazyGamer2017 said:
I also said he must take responsibility for the CRIME of rape, didn't I, but again you are blind to that part. And yes I said that she needs to take responsibility for the MISTAKE, I did not say crime, I said mistake because marrying an asshole that ends up raping you is EXACTLY the definition of the word, mistake. If I shut down my computer right now cause you guys are kind of a pain to talk to (it's the middle of the night over here) and go out on foot towards a dangerous part of town and get stabbed, I MADE A MISTAKE, I could not know in advance I was going to get stabbed, yet I (not my neighbor, not the Pope, not the president but I, as in ME) made the MISTAKE of going alone, on foot to a dangerous part of town in the middle of the night. Am I to blame for the crime of stabbing? Nope but in my hospital bed I will have the basic LOGIC of realizing that I was a DUMBASS for going alone in a dangerous part of town and I will take responsibility for that mistake, while the attacker must take responsibility for the crime. That's what I'm saying and that's how it is. And no PC counter arguments from you or others will change these facts. |
Saying that she should take responsibility for her "mistake" implies that it was her fault. We aren't talking about someone counting money in back alleys here, we are talking about someone who is in a relationship with someone and that person doing something horrible and violating their trust.
To put it another way, say you were walking through your local mall in the middle of the day and you got mugged. Did you make a mistake? No, because your actions were not faulty or unreasonable even though they led to a negative outcome. You are saying that by default, if a woman gets raped by her husband, it had to be because she made stupid decisions, and totally ignoring the possibility that there may have been no fault in her actions and nothing to imply that this would be the outcome at the time she married him.
Unless you think that women should operate under the assumption that any man could rape them, there is no logic to that point (and that would be a pretty fucked up assumption).
Why should any of the burden fall on the woman here? Why should we blame her when she did nothing wrong? And why is blaming the woman and calling her an idiot the first thing you turn to in this conversation? Why, when someone mentions marital rape, do you first think "wow, that woman must have been a "DUMBASS" for marrying that guy" and not something like "Wow, it is horrible that this individual would violate their partner's trust."? Do you not see the harm that this mindset can do to victims of domestic abuse?
And as a side note, I'm not sure why you are emphasizing the fact that she didn't commit a crime. Like, no shit Sherlock, no one ever said she did or implied that you said she did. And the fact that you are saying that the rapist in this scenario committed a crime doesn't change anything either. The reason I haven't addressed it is because there is nothing to address.
CrazyGamer2017 said:
Sorry I was not clear on that. I did start reading what you said, but at the very first line of your text you began using derogatory words, what was it again? Oh yeah, brainlet. My nickname is Crazygamer, not brainlet. So yeah, I do talk of respect and debating in a civilized manner. It's amazing that you insult me when I never insulted you and you have the audacity of telling me that I should not speak of respect. I'm just like, wow. |
Where is the respect towards victims of rape? Or are they to blame for you repeatedly calling them idiot or dumbass too?
