o_O.Q said:
"But you didn't call what dolphins have "paws" or "feet" or "legs". You called them "fins or flippers". If you do that, then you should not, I argue, call what penguins have "wings". They adapted from wings, and from legs, into something that is different from wings or legs, but which is very similar to what the other aquatic species developed. We (both you and I) call these fins or flippers. " do i really need to go into the fact that we use a group of criteria rather than one particular criteria? you know... penguins having beaks? feathers? laying eggs? "I did go back and read what he said. What I found was not what you said" then you didn't look far enough "what was the point of your question, "why don't elephants swim with fish in schools?"" i've addressed that multiple times in my posts... if you're too lazy to go and read the full context for the conversation yourself, then don't depend on me to do it for you |
1. But do you concede that penguins do not have "wings" by any reasonable definition of the word? If not, then please go back to my previous post (the one still inside the quote tree in this post) and reply to the points I made. Or, I guess, you could say "I don't have an answer for what you said but I still disagree." That's not cowardly; it's braver to admit what you don't know than to NOT admit to not knowing it.
2. I looked through the entire conversation between the two of you. There is nowhere left to look. You grossly misinterpreted his posts—prove me wrong.
3. I've seen the other arguments you put forth in respect to the topic this question was regarding, but that's different from you explaining what you actually meant when you asked it.
Your question was asked in response to Filix's statement that "Living creatures aren't inherently divided into strict groups." At a glance, he seems to have been attempting to explain to you that the gradualistic spectrum of differences between creatures that results from common descent and the processes of evolution results in there being all sorts of things on this planet, not all of which fit neatly into the categories that humans make up to try to keep it all straight in their minds. Your rebuttal, originally posed as "so why don't tuna, elephants, lions and flamingos all swim in schools?" seems to be an attempt at a reductio ad absurdum argument, but it fails hilariously due to so completely missing the mark of the statement it was responding to. Probably because you fundamentally misunderstood it.
My question to you, "what did you mean by this?", was an attempt to get you to try to explicitly explain your objection to the original point in a way other than posing a reductio ad absurdum argument. Your refusal to do so suggests that you cannot address the actual argument and thus create in your mind a strawman that you CAN knock down. But the absolutely ridiculous thing about it is what a blatant strawman it is: seemingly, "there is literally no difference between any living thing". If I got that wrong, you can't blame me: I tried my hardest to get you to elaborate.
Tag (courtesy of fkusumot): "Please feel free -- nay, I encourage you -- to offer rebuttal."
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