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Eagle367 said:
Vegans and vegetarians seriously think it's unethical to kill animals for food? And killing [lants is a ok because vegans and vegetarians decided they are lesser beings. I am opposed to cruelty and senseless killing of any being whether plant animal insect or even bacteria. I hate when people kill spiders and Anta needlessly. But did not one ever teach them about the circle of life? They seriously need to watch lion king. Call it God's plan or evolution and selection but for better or worse we are omnivores. The truth of the matter is vegans don't get all the essential proteins in the right quantity unless they eat a lot of soy or something like that or take supplemens. They even have to supplement vitamin b12 because plants don't have bacteria that make them. And supplement fat soluble vitamins as well. There's nothing wrong with that but claiming moral high ground is wrong I think. The only valid point they have is helping the environment and frankly it's up in the air if that actually does help or not because it's not simple addition you have to account for a lot of factors and I have not read up on a lot studies that prove that it's better. If science shows that it is then at least they have something but otherwise this whole holier than thou attitude is throughly unwarranted and completely ridiculous

I think a lot of people who are vegan or veggie relate it to the poor treatment farmed animals undergo, mostly related to the insane high demand for meat and the demand for cheap meat. The harmful impact on the ecosystem and things which are required to rear and feed this animals including insane amount of anti-biotics and hormones which all comes back to effect us. Many people go on vegan or reduced meat diets to improve their health.

In the same way that you value human life over an insects, it makes sense that many people make distinctions between cows and chickens as they do from insects, plants, bacteria. Ethics is complete subjective, I don't think the modern example of a vegitarian claims a moral high ground but they may feel better about themselves knowing they support one less destructive industry and they're responsible for less animal deaths.

Last edited by Otter - on 26 February 2018