The Russian Debate

[Puppyroach]

Final-Fan said:

NightDragon83 said:

That's from March 2014.  Obama and Co. were singing a much different tune about Russia before then.  It's not like Putin changed his stripes overnight.

But the question is, why the fuck are you talking about 2012 and the fact that we were trying to make diplomatic overtures to Russia and claiming that "they have magically become [our enemy] AFTER Hillary blew the election" if you are fully aware of the fact that relations soured YEARS before the 2016 elections?  Are you not being intellectually dishonest here? 

And it´s also very easy for people how brush of Russia to forget that Putin was elected as president in 2012, invaded Crimea in 2014 and went into Syria in 2015. When Medvedev was president, Russia was a lot easier to deal with than after 2012. I still think Obama was to naive regarding Russia though.