The Russian Debate

[Puppyroach]

Lucas-Rio said:

Puppyroach said:

The discussion about Russia medling came long before Trump was elected so what are you even talking about? And have you actually read these "bombshell" texts that have come out? There is nothing controversial about them at all, unless the far-right and Fox News reads them because they obviously neither understand how people who know each other text, and also that the FBI regularly inform the president on ongoing matters. 

Why is Russia "meddling' in such a low scale such a big deal suddenly , outweighting all the meddling the US has done in the past decades?

Hacking a party sever, buying ads on facebook, leaking Podesta emails. That's what is claimed against Russians.

That's much much lower than US arming rebels, giving cash to oppositions, setting up whole organizations in other countryes, bullying sanctions, trying to kill head of states and so on.

It is not "low scale" when a government tries to get acces to voter rolls in 21 states but I don´t blame Russia, they are doing what the US, UK and a whole host of other countries has done for decades upon decades. I don´t think any country should do it and I find it despicable that it happens but that is the reality and not really relevant to this matter.

What is relevant is if US citizens aided Russia in any ways or if US citizens worked with Russia in order to benefit from their meddling. Then those people are undermining the democratic system of their own country and should be properly punished for it. And ofcourse the US should enact sanctions against Russia, just as Russia should enact sanctions against the US if they were to meddle in the Russian elections.

And btw, is your argument seriously that, because the US often times do much worse things than Russia, their meddlig in the US elections shouldn´t be a big deal?