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Final-Fan on 04 February 2018
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DarthVolod said:
Final-Fan said:

Could you cite your claim that Trump's offer was "better than anything Obama ever offered"?  I admit I haven't done an exhaustive search, but the information I did find suggests that Trump's DACA proposal is not significantly better than Obama's, and the chain migration offer is just a return to status quo AFAIK, and thus (if I am right) cannot be better than Obama by definition. 

I think settling this question first would make it a lot easier for there to be meaningful discussion of whether Democrats would be smart to take his offer. 

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/26/trump-daca-deal-is-a-dream-come-true-for-democrats-commentary.html

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jan/25/trump-amnesty-cover-18-million-dreamers/

At a glance, those articles repeat the information I cited that Trump's proposal would allow about the same number of people to qualify as Obama's DACA program did.  The "three times as many" claims come from comparing the number of people who could hypothetically enroll against the number of people who have actually enrolled in reality.  Trump's proposal has a qualification total similar to Obama's. 

Of course, that may not be what you are referring to.  Very well, you have cited sources.  Please remind me:  in what way do those sources support the claim that Trump's offer was "better than anything Obama ever offered"? 



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