What is it going to take to restart the US Government after the shutdown, and what does it all mean?

[Final-Fan]

DarthVolod said:

Final-Fan said:

That's almost a good point.  You could have had a really good conterpoint except you couldn't be satisfied with "that's not a congressperson saying that" and you had to go and compare left-leaning comedians with allegedly serious Republican bloggers.  Were you going to find a quote of them being serious? or are Democratic jokes comparable to serious Republican thought? 

But never mind.  The point you could have made still stands regardless.  Here you have a chance to actually help me out.  Michelle Bachmann said, "It's exactly what we wanted, and we got it. People will be very grateful."  She later disputed the context of the quote, which was allegedly speaking of the shutdown.  The full quote by Bachmann appears to be that she is not happy about the shutdown per se but happy about making the demand that prompted the shutdown (that she knew would prompt a shutdown). 
“This is exactly what we had hoped for. A full one year delay, a full year defunding. It is a full delay of one year of the taxes, a full delay of the funding including all the advertising. It’s exactly what we asked for and we got it. So we’re very excited. That’s why I think we can all vote.”
It's a fine distinction but a significant one.  I have not yet been able to find a transcript of the full context of the quote, but I have been able to find an audio clip; however, the person who asked for comment is very hard to hear. 
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/bachmann-denies-saying-shutdown-exactly-what-we-wanted-wapo-and-obama-misquoted-me/
Can you figure out what the full context is? 

Anyway, she wasn't the only one excited about trying to kill Obamacare, which was the cause of the shutdown.  John Culberson also reportedly said, "It's wonderful. We're 100 percent united!"

It was a great counterpoint but obviously the humor was lost on you. I was exaggerating for comedic effect ...

As for the Bachmann comment, god that is hard to hear. Is like 10 people talking over her in crowded room ... but once again context matters a lot here. Was the shutdown deliberate? Perhaps, but we won't know unless someone can dig up a recording or something somewhere that states that in context from a person in a position to actually bring about or contribute to that shut down. Was she happy about it? It seems so yes, but that is, like you said, different from being out to shut down from the start. 

In other words, I can be happy that a rival at work got fired, but there is a difference between being happy about it and actually causing that person to be fired in the first place. 

You can take Culberson's quote in many ways as well. 

We don't really know 100% for sure about the 2013 shutdown and same with the 2018 one. Only thing we know is that neither one really matter like I said. Unless someone can produce solid evidence for either case. We can speculate though and that is about it. 

I think the fact that Democrats were provably desperate to end the shutdown while Republicans were provably willing to carry it on for weeks is pretty damn solid evidence for their relative levels of enthusiasm on the topic of the respective shutdowns.  Some Republicans were so committed to the shutdown politically that they were willing to carry on with it even without a clear policy goal in mind:  "We have to get something out of this. And I don’t know what that even is." (from the Wikipedia article cited above)