What is it going to take to restart the US Government after the shutdown, and what does it all mean?

[Final-Fan]

DonFerrari said:

Final-Fan said:

The thing is, in 2013 Republicans were specifically gunning for a shutdown.  They didn't want to look for a deal, they wanted to look for a showdown.  Their demand to kill Obamacare was much different from the Democrats' demand about DACA:  it's on a whole different order of magnitude.  It's closer to if the Democrats said "we are going to shut down everything unless you completely repeal the tax bill you just passed".  In fact, it's arguable that the Republicans back then deliberately picked an issue they knew the Democrats could never give in on to stage the battle over. 

On another note, since you are trying to look for parallels between that shutdown and this one, the Republican position in both cases was to change the status quo, while the Democratic position in both cases was to keep the status quo. 

Strange to say the conservatives are the ones wanting to change the status quo while the progressives are the one wanting to keep it.

It is a pretty interesting bit of irony.  Obviously that's not the case all of the time, but it was in both of the last two government shutdowns. 

Of course, you could say that the conservatives wanted to "return to a previous status quo"; but the progressives were defending the status quo of the time that the event occurred.  Something had changed a few years ago that they liked and they wanted to keep it, and conservatives didn't like it and wanted to get rid of it.