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Bofferbrauer2 said:

It can go either way, but unless many upgrade from PS4 to the Pro version, I doubt it, as slowly there's some saturation setting in.

KBG29 said:
I think there is a very good chance of PS4 selling more in 2018. Looking at what is coming already, and the possabilities of price cuts to PS4 Slim and PS4 Pro, I can see Sony shipping 25 Million units in CY2018.

However, I believe 2019 will be the peak. We know for sure that a PS4 Super Slim is coming, and it should launch for $149.99. There should also be a PS4 Pro Slim for $249.99. Then we have the wild cards, PS4 Premium, PS4 Portable, PS4 Phone, PSVR Pro.

I believe 2019 will end up being the first year, with major 3rd party AAA PSVR support. With PS4 Super Slim + PSVR $199.99, Sales will be absolutely insane regaurdless of Premium, Portable, Phone. I think Sony could break the 30 Million shipped mark in 2019.

Outside of gaming, I believe the PS4 Super Slim will come in a Digital Only form factor with 500GB of Flash. With no Blu-ray Drive and no HDD, the thing will be roughly the size of Amazon Fire TV, Apple TV, and Roku boxes. I also think they will put HDMI 2.1 in it allowing for 4K HDR video content. This will be combined with 4K HDR TV using Hybrid Log Gamma on PlayStation Vue, and a huge push in the Set Top Box market. This could even turn into a thing where they offer PS4 SS for free with 3 months of PS Vue, or at a substantial discount.

This is just based on what we already know. We still have 2 years worth the trade shows, and partenerships. The more the PS4 sells, the more 3rd parties, gaming or otherwise are going to want to be on the platform.It is going to be an awesome ride.

@Bolded: Again, you show that you don't seem to understand that hardware always comes at a price. In this case, the 500GB SSD alone would break the 150$ pricetag by far, especially since it will have to come in M.2 format (or soldered on, making it unupgradeable in the process) to fit into the small case you're proposing. Plus, as cheap as it might be, I doubt it would sell well without the possibility to play the games on discs.

@Italic: Won't come until next year minimum, as it will need the 7nm with stable yield rates to be able to shrink down the main chip enough to create a slim version of that chip. Unless Sony wants to risk overheating a lot of units, RROD anyone?

@Undelined: Hahahahaha

Sorry I laughed out loud when I read those. Tech ain't there yet to allow a PS4 portable (you could make it - in laptop size that is. Raven Ridge at 15W TDP ain't far away anymore in GFlops from the PS4, at 20-25W it should be feasible), let alone PS4 phone

500GB M.2 Drives are already available to consumers at $129.99  - $149.99 on the low end. Flash prices are supposed to start dropping very quickly over the next decade, while capacity sky rockets. By late 2019 500GB of Flash Storage will be ~$50 for cinsumers and even lower for a company like Sony. Digital is going to be 60% or more at that point, and casuals have no attatchment to physical game. These are the Netflix, Spotify, Youtube people of the world. They just want cheap and simple.

I have PS4 Pro Slim in 2019 predictions.

The Portable is way more possible than people are making it out to be. By late 2019 a 15W APU based on 2nd gen Ryzen and Navi using 7nm fabrication will be at PS4 Pro levels.



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