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HoangNhatAnh said:
EricHiggin said:

You are the one who assumed I meant the chip itself would cost $300 when every other time we both assumed the cost was the entire unit. Based on the low cost of Ryzen APU's right now, retail, $300 is clearly way too high for just the chip. Exactly, some third parties don't want to launch their games on the platform, not because they don't think it wont sell, but because it can't be completely sold as physical or digital without taking another extra separate step. You keep saying all PS4 games are 100GB or more, please show me this huge list of games at those sizes, and explain to me how when the games are downgraded to play on the portable that they will still be over 80GB. Yes, expandable storage is necessary for both Nin and PS to keep the retail launch price of the portable low enough to convince people to buy it, so why is this only a problem for PS? Worthwhile portable battery life most likely requires downgraded graphics, like we've talked about before, so why are you saying it would be so horrible because of the games playing at their fullest potential? I said PS can do it, and I've given an example of how I think it could be done, but that doesn't mean it's the only way, or the way that PS would decide to go about it, if they did it at all.

I especially like your definition of "everyone". Your definition is basically the exact opposite of what it means based on your remark. Which also makes me wonder when it comes to the numbers and math you've provided, since to justify "everyone" it would have to be proven with sizable numbers, a majority, something you may have in another universe apparently, but not this one.

Not "everyone", huh. Sorry, i forgot to mention people outside Sony fans disagree with you. I didn't say all PS4 games are 100 GB, misread on purpose? I said Western AAA games, especially with add-ons, DLCs, updates and season pass can bring a very big file size game.  500GB only isn't enough for a digital only system if you also add several GB of indie games. We have Call of Duty Black Ops 3 or Infinite Warfare (both around 100GB), The Elder Scroll Online (86 GB) also. Even the remaster ones like Battlefield 4 take 71GB and the first is 52 GB, Kingdom Hearts 1.5 + 2.5 Remix from Japan is 56GB. A game need to compress to fit on portable. See Vita/PS3 and PSP/PS2 or 3DS/Wii, even Switch games were compressed when ported them from Wii U to Switch.

I wasn't aware that you were voted speaker for all that is not PS. What title does this give you? Does it pay well? Ok, lets assume based on your best case scenario, that the handheld only has 500GB internal storage, and that some AAA games are around 100GB, with no compression or downgrades whatsoever. What is wrong with being able to have 5 AAA games on the stock storage at one time? How acceptable is it for a company to be able to say to its customers, you can have 5 AAA games at this base price, but for another $50 to $100, a micro SD card will get you another 3 or 4 AAA games. If you have a mixed batch on the unit, you can have up to 25 games base, and 40 with expandable storage. If you play nothing but indie games, you can have 100 games on stock storage. How many AAA games need to be able to fit on the stock storage? PS4 must have sold at least 30M - 40M, 500GB models before they came out with the optional 1TB model, so why wasn't the PS4 DOA, and why was it, and still is, thriving?



PS1   - ! - We must build a console that can alert our enemies.

PS2  - @- We must build a console that offers online living room gaming.

PS3   - #- We must build a console that’s powerful, social, costs and does everything.

PS4   - $- We must build a console that’s affordable, charges for services, and pumps out exclusives.

PRO  -%-We must build a console that's VR ready, checkerboard upscales, and sells but a fraction of the money printer.

PS5   - ^ -We must build a console that’s a generational cross product, with RT lighting, and price hiking.

PRO  -&- We must build a console that Super Res upscales and continues the cost increases.