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Aeolus451 said:
Soundwave said:
"The Mary Sue is bad for box office" stuff doesn't even make sense ... Rey is a bigger Mary Sue in the The Force Awakens and people went to see that again ... and again ... and again ... and again.

$936 million domestic is unbelievable actually, that's more than Avatar and right with Titanic's initial run which was *monsterous* in the US and the very definition of box office legs.

So basically people want JJ Abrams and more Rey Mary Sue if we are to conclude the formula differences from TFA to TLJ.

Of course that doesn't really fit the narrative of the "damnit, give me more cock in my Star Wars, Disney!" crowd, lol.

`Would you cut this shit out? No one has said anything like that so stop trying to make it sound anyone who doesn't like Rey is sexist. Plenty of people who don't like the film explained it so a child could understand their reasoning. You're intentionally trying to misrepresent people's opinions on this by smearing them as sexists. 

It's right in the OPs post (Gary Stu/Mary Sue stuff) as being cited as one of the reasons why TLJ isn't making enough money. But that doesn't even make sense. The Force Awakens had people go see it over and over and over again. 

It's practically tied with Titanic for domestic box office which is unbelievable and not possible without tremendous word of mouth and repeat viewership. If anything then if we are using the "box office is never wrong" logic, then by said logic, The Force Awakens formula of JJ Abrams writing + Rey as the defacto lead character and the way she was written in TFA is what Disney needs to do *more* of. 

But of course that doesn't fit the agenda that some people have. If you're going to argue box office this, box office that, fine, but you can't have it both ways. 

Last edited by Soundwave - on 05 January 2018