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Aeolus451 on 02 January 2018
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Soundwave said:
Aeolus451 said:

I think that you missed the main point that's the meat of this. Rey doesn't make sense in the sw universe. Force users have to be trained in the use of the force to the equivalent of a jedi knight or master to be considered overpowered or at Stu/Sue level to make sense in that universe. Anakin had to be trained since he was a kid and he still lost to his teacher who wasn't a chosen one. Do you see what I mean?  She's a Mary Sue without having any logical reason for it within that story. It violates the sw canon and it opens up alot of plot holes. There's plenty of Mary Sues in these genres and people are fine with it. It's nonsensical to assume anyone who doesn't like her don't like her because she's  a woman. 

Anakin as first presented to us is a 9 year old who without 0 training already has Jedi reflexes so fast that he's the only human who's able to fly in deadly pod-races. He's already able to build protocol droids at this age too. 

I'm not really sure he ever really needed Jedi training to be a powerful Force user, he's already well on his way at age 9. 

In any case, SW canon basically states the Force doesn't give a crap about Jedi or their training program. 

When it comes to a "chosen one" they are given all they need because they are chosen by the Force. You would have a case if the Force didn't stick its dick into Shmi Skywalker to make a baby (tell me how that makes sense). 

Force does some wacky shit in the Star Wars lore. Rey is just Anakin 2.0, but this time it doesn't look like she's prone to the Dark Side. Guess the Force got it right the second time around. 

You're wrong about Anakin. Any force user has a sort of intuition and higher than normal reflexes but it doesn't give them any hidden knowledge like how to fight with a light saber well enough to win against a trained and gifted force user. They can be gifted or talented at many things but they have to learn it. Anakin knew how to tinker with machines because he learned it like everyone else. He wasn't able to fight against anyone with force powers til after he was trained .

Rey is not like any force user. She's just Rey. She doesn't make any sense. They should have written her character differently and toned her down a great deal but it would change a great deal of the new films. They were written bad and they're catching some shit for it.