Aeolus451 said:
So you're assuming that everyone is a sexist because they don't like Rey? I wouldn't call Harry Potter, he just survived against the bad guy because of his parents. He was Luke wasn't a Gary Stu. He lost most of his major fights and he had to rely heavily on his allies just to survive. Sure he falls into the chosen one tropes but he's fairly weak in most of the films. Rey is very much a Mary Sue. She had no training and used advanced force powers/won in light saber fight against a dark force user who was trained by Luke. People are more upset of the breaking of sw canon and characters who don't make any sense in the sw universe. |
Yeah. That makes perfect sense. I do think there could be aspects of sexism at play here because this to me is just a fairly common character archetype that's used in many other movies. And I'm definitely no feminist but there does seem to be a double standard here.
Harry "Perfect" Potter beats Draco who's been practicing/playing quiddich for all his life basically the first time he plays, lol. Every movie is "Isn't Harry so wonderful/smart/perfect". Every time Harry being great is questioned or in doubt by the end of the story the lesson is "no Harry actually was perfect/right". lol. His wand even signals that he is perfect.
Neo is basically perfect too.
It's also a common archetype for Messiah-religious figures. Take a wild guess at one of them, though he is hardly the only one (again it's a common mythical archetype).
They're not even breaking Star Wars canon. She's basically a repeat of the Anakin Skywalker character. Snoke says it himself, any time there is darkness in the Force, the Force will basically of its own free will create/chose a person of "light" to bring the Force back into balance. This happened before with the birth of Anakin and it's now happened again in Rey.
Seems to me like it's canon that the Force just ups and decides to do shit if there's too much Dark Side fuckery going on. Only difference is Anakin turned out to be a douche, but even then he still fulfills the prophecy bestowed upon him in the end. This is canon, it's clearly stated in film and even has precident of happening in a previous trilogy.
Luke isn't a Gary Stu, but he's pretty darn close. He gets what? 5 minutes of training blocking laser buzzies and out maneuvers Darth Vader at the end of the film blowing up an entire Star Destroyer? This is like beating LeBron James and hitting the game winning jump shot in the NBA Finals after practising basketball for a day.
The character archetype of Neo/Harry/Rey also has one other thing. "Training" is not really required, all they require is "already within them" basically. Again this is intentional. In fact the struggle of the character is usually controlling this power/being afraid of said power/denying this power. Again, you will see this very clearly in the Matrix and Potter films.
Last edited by Soundwave - on 02 January 2018
