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mZuzek said:
Goodnightmoon said:

Then explain why the movie has only a 5.2 on filmaffinity among 5000 votes, are those people mad at him for calling Rey a Mary Sue? Your arguments can't get any worse, i saw Bright yesterday and it was really bad, didn't even know who the writter was or how much critics liked it, i just know what I saw was a mess.

What even is a "filmaffinity"? Why don't you use numbers from more mainstream movie sites like... oh, I see already - because it doesn't help your point. Not trying to defend Bright here or anything, I haven't seen it to judge nor do I care, but this isn't the first time I've seen people bring up weird sites for reference.

Also, Rey is a Mary Sue. That has always been true and the fact that some people here are trying to deny it is baffling. Even I could admit she was a Mary Sue two years ago, when it was TFA hype season full force and I loved the movie, and its characters too - particularly her. I mean, I don't even feel compelled to explain why here, everyone knows and it's so, so clear to see.

I mean, is it that hard to accept a bit of criticism? You're free to enjoy whatever movie you want and if you genuinely think The Last Jedi is an amazing film, then all power to you, but do accept that some things it doesn't do right and move on if you can enjoy it despite those. At this point I don't think I've seen you accept even the slightest criticism, you're constantly defending absolutely everything the movie does and keep insisting there's nothing wrong with it - when clearly there must be if at least half the audience who's seen it disliked it.

It's fair to ask though why wasn't that same criticism levelled at this:

 

Why is it only now that it's a big deal. The above is INTENTIONAL too. The character concept of the "golden child", "chosen one" is common in fantasy and has been for ages. The trope is a character who is basically annointed by divine choosing to bring some kind of justice/balance into a world that has been corrupted by darkness/war. Said character will exhibit exceptional abilities that go beyond reason or what any "normal" person has. Said person will often have good fortune land in their lap. Said character will often have a character foil that is initially jealous/resentful of their "chosen one" ablity (Draco to Harry Potter, Cypher to Neo, Kylo to Rey). Said character can do things that other people, even talented people needs years to do in a very short period of time (Neo displays greater power than Morpheus after 5 minutes of sparring, Harry is instantly better than Draco at quiddich despite never really using a broom to fly before, Rey bests Kylo the first time they fight). 

She's not even the first Star Wars character like this. Anakin is, that story just subverts the trope by turning Anakin into a dick head, lol, but it's the same idea. 

You guys should pay attention in English class/story study. 

Last edited by Soundwave - on 02 January 2018