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Angelus on 01 January 2018
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DakonBlackblade said:
Angelus said:

You are right that Last Jedi is fantastic on a technical level. It is very beautifully directed, and the visual design is stunning. I also think all the actors do a good job with what they're given.

Lets not pretend though that the plot is in any way above a DC movie. It REALLY isn't. That's not even subjective. The entire plot of the last Jedi wouldn't happen if any of the people in it behaved like actual human beings. That is a fact. The movie just expects you not to care, because it's so pretty. That's not even going into all the minutia of how it breaks the continuity of Star Wars as it's been presented to this point.

Thats not true at all, the movie have a very clear motiff, the young spuring on the elders and the elders teaching the young. Every single one of the 3 new protagonists make terrible decision because they ahven't listened to theier elders and they all fail their quests. However thei energy and impetus motivate the elders to never give up and in the end of the movie all 3 new protagonists have learned from the elders and have grown in some significant and evident way (Poe more so than anyone else). Are there conviniences and Ex machinas on the scrip, ye sure but I dare you to find one script ever that doesn't. Its highly unlikedly that Ep VIII will win awards for its script, but it has a very solid one, it does exactly what it set out to do and the character arcs all lead somewhere withitm the movie. 

Ya....I'm not gonna waste my time relisting how pretty much everything that happened in this movie could have been avoided in one way or another if the characters actually acted like functioning human beings with common sense. There's gotta be like hundred posts on that already in this thread. If you don't see that....idk what to tell you man.

And as for the themes of this movie....lol....it's just another thing they couldn't make a definitive statement on (like everything else in this movie). Everything they do, they try to have it both ways. Here's Rian Johnson while writing the scrip; "Ok, big theme of the movie, self sacrifice is noble, great, and worth applauding! Ok, a few minutes later, self sacrifice is shit, we shouldn't condone it, don't kill the things you hate!" So don't tell me about how this movie teaches characters clear lessons, and everyone has great character development. 

If you enjoyed the movie, great. More power to you. I wish I could have enjoyed it too. But don't dilute yourself into thinking the movie did things that it clearly didn't.