By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close
Teeqoz on 31 December 2017
Edit Thread
thismeintiel said:
mZuzek said:

To be fair the role they gave Chewie in this movie was probably worse than killing him off.

Other than that, yeah, way to miss the point entirely. I agree with mostly everything Angelus said here, pretty insightful stuff (as much as it pains me to agree with a GotG Vol. 2 hater!).

Oh and dudes, stop trying to make this movie out as a failure. Being down 30% over The Force Awakens isn't anything out of the ordinary, it's actually quite expected. I don't think any Star Wars film (or any film altogether) is coming close to TFA's numbers for a long time, the middle chapter in the trilogy was definitely the one that wouldn't do that. The only real impact this negative reception might have on Episode IX's box office numbers, which definitely could be lower as many of the Last Jedi haters will be giving up on the franchise now (I certainly am) - and even then, it's still pretty much guaranteed to do at least $1b in the absolute worst-case scenario, so... please, just stop. These movies are not commercial failures, regardless of whether you want them to be or not.

Who said anything about failure? That is a strawman that many who like the movie are clinging onto. There's a difference between a flop and a big disappointment.  Take GOTG Volume 2 for instance. If it had been down from the original by ~20%, down by ~$155M, would it have been a flop? No. But, it would have been a big disappointment, and would have made Disney/Marvel take note that there was something they needed to do to make sure that didn't  happen, again.  

The point is no one expected it to be this low. Definitely not Disney. TFA showed just how big SW is in this new market. Hell, even a spinoff could make over $1B. Sure, I'm positive Disney expected some decline in BO revenue, as TLJ wouldn't meet the levels of hype that TFA did. Though, it nearly did opening weekend, being down only $79M WW, down 15%.

After that weekend, I bet they were thinking $1.7B, maybe even $1.75-$1.8B, was in the bag. But, it continued to drop, faster than TFA, and now it's down $461.2M, or 31%. If the 31% down holds true, it won't hit $1.5B, ending ~$1.43B. Personally, I think the drop could hit 35%-38%, ending at $1.28B-$1.34B.  Definitely not a flop, but a big disappointment. 

You mention TLJ's excellent opening week, which in fact came close to TFA. What I don't get is why that's a reason to change your overall expectations (which, judging by your post at least, it seems you did), and I doubt Disney will be dissapointed by the movie not matching revised projections after a smashing opening week, if that's what you are suggesting they did...