The Fans Have Spoken, Last Jedi Drops A Massive 68%

[Azuren]

JakDaSnack said:

Azuren said:

One line of dialogue? Luke's favorite thing to play with was his model of his T-16. He mentioned having looked over the X-Wing to other rebels, claiming it was similar enough to what he was used to to get a good feel of it. And holy shit: he had a feel of it. Would you fucking look at that? Honestly, your denial of outright facts from the Original Trilogy (note: NOT THE EU) is your single largest failing point in your argument. It's like suddenly deciding that Obi-wan was just saying shit when he said Anakin was a great Jedi, or that not that many people died to get the Death Star plans. Why? "Because they were just bragging", right?

 

And oh, so she didn't continue to be a force savant? Not lifting piles of boulders or using lightsabers with zero proper training? "But Snoke"- fucking died in the most upsettingly convenient way, didn't he? Almost like he was there to be a show of force before they got rid of him?

 

Seriously, what are you on? How can you show someone a Mary Sue and they just insist that's normal and preferred?

Lol, I never denied anything.  Are you ok? Lol.  But like I said, I never said Luke was a Mary Sue, and this topic has become a he said she said, so I’m dropping it since it’s noy relevant.

No more than TFA, again, given the rules established in TFA, TLJ did not add anything, however did explain.  You continue to not have a counter to this.  She spent the entire movie practicing her skills and learning new things from Luke, lifting the boulders was the culmination of that.  And wtf Snoke, explain the relevance to Rey being Mary Sue. 

Lol, I like how you had no counter to 2 of my points, and now I’m on something? Lol, sorry bud, but you aren’t doing a good job with this argument.  

No, don't play stupid and start backpedaling, Mr "He was just bragging". Either own your stupid arguments or admit they were stupid, don't pretend you didn't make them.

 

So your leading argument is "She's not anymore of a Sue than she was, so what's the big deal"?

 

Rey’s force powers were explained by snoke and Luke.

How? She's special? You do understand what a Mary Sue is, right? Overly special?

 

she wasn’t liked by any of the new characters she met.

That's alright since she's already super tight with Leia, Chewy, Luke, and an entire resistance that had known her for 12 hours.

 

She failed all of her tasks.

Certainly didn't fail at dying. That would have been great. Another thing she's better than Han and Luke at. And in all seriousness: does she really? Because last I checked she managed to fucking escaping from the middle of Snoke's grasp because *gasp* Kylo likes her? I thought no one liked her?

 

She was man handled by Snoke and was unable to beat Kylo Ren.

Being manhandled only to escape isn't manhandling, it's setting a bar to show how awesome she is when she escapes.