The Fans Have Spoken, Last Jedi Drops A Massive 68%

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JakDaSnack said:

thismeintiel said:

It is you who does not know what a Mary Sue is.  Here's the textbook definition.

A Mary Sue is an idealized and seemingly perfect fictional character. Often, this character is recognized as an author insert or wish fulfillment.^[1] They can usually perform better at tasks than should be possible given the amount of training or experience. 

Mary Sue stories—the adventures of the youngest and smartest ever person to graduate from the academy and ever get a commission at such a tender age. Usually characterized by unprecedented skill in everything from art to zoology, including karate and arm-wrestling. This character can also be found burrowing her way into the good graces/heart/mind of one of the Big Three [Kirk, Spock, and McCoy], if not all three at once. She saves the day by her wit and ability, and, if we are lucky, has the good grace to die at the end, being grieved by the entire ship.

That last part is specifically about Star Trek, where the title originated from, but it easily applies here.  She can fly and fix the MF just as good, if not better than Han Solo, no explanation given.  Han and Chewy instantly warm up to her.  Han even asks her to join his crew after knowing her for an extremely short time.  When he dies, Chewy instantly accepts her as the new Han, and the MF is hers, now.  She's just as handy with a blaster as a skilled shot, after only taking one practice shot.  She is just as good, if not better, with a lightsaber than anyone, no explanation or training given.  And she is 100% the most powerful user of the Force, as she can do anything and everything with not only little to no training, but also with little to no concentration/effort.

TEXTBOOK MARY SUE.

I can’t believe I’m getting sucked into this nonsense, it’s like I make one brief statement and Everyone pounces on it. You are scary obsessed with convincing everyone that a movie you didn’t like, isn’t as good as they thought.  It’s sad is what it is.  But since you actually quoted the wiki, I will comment. Most of Rey skills were brought up through actions.  She took out the troopers with a bow staff (hand to hand skills), fixed BB-8(good mechanic) and knew how to pilot vehicles.  She obviously has been at Jakku all her life, and spends most of her days collecting scraps.  Considering her interactions with the dealer, she has learned what parts are important are and what aren’t.  These are all skills that she could easily pick up on while living alone, and fending for herself.  She didn’t need to say a couple lines saying hey “I taught myself these things because I’m awesome” because the movie did a great job of demonstrating her strengths and weaknesses.  When she got on the falcon, the first thing she did was fly it into the ground, before she got a handle on the controls.  When she was in the forest she struggled with hitting her targets with the blaster.  But most importantly, her biggest weakness has been her undying need to find her parents.  She would rather leave Finn and Han to wait at Jakku.  As for the force, it was established in TLJ that the force awakened inside of her.  Luke said that he saw that kinda of power only once before.  That being said, she failed at turning Ben and was powerless against Snoke.  Now perhaps she might be more powerful than Kylo Ren, but the part where they split the lightsaber in two tells me they are equals.  Now I could go into why Kylo Ren wasn’t strong enough to take her down, but I’m typing on a phone lol.

 

 

 

1. Luke's one gift in life was his pilot skills, which was attained through practice, not by virtue of being a female Protagonist.

2. Luke lived a normal Tatooine life; Rey "struggled" and is therefore more interesting by default.

3. Luke got fucked by Jawas and nearly got fucked in the cantina; Rey kicked the shit out of a group of armed individuals.

4. Luke was roughly on Han's level of skill when manning the guns in the MF; Rey is a goddess with all forms of technology even though that's not how the force works.

5. Luke had to struggle and concentrate to use force pull in the Wampa cave; Rey accidentally used force pull to much greater effectiveness with no effort from a further distance.

6. Luke not only lost his first lightsaber duel, but lost a damn hand in the process and nearly died; Rey humiliated Kylo, whose only disadvantage seemed to be because he was male.

7. Luke never pulled off any high level force techniques until he'd trained for 3 years; Rey accidentally did the mind trick on the second try.

8. Luke's skill with a blaster could be explained by his proficiency for gunning things down in his ship on Tatooine; Rey instinctively got a kill shot the second time she ever fired a blaster and proceeded to get an insane kill:shot ratio.

9. Luke struggled and failed to lift an X-wing, and barely managed to lift three rocks while balancing; Rey lifted rocks like it ain't no thang and does zero effort.