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EricHiggin on 21 December 2017
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DonFerrari said:
EricHiggin said:
I can't help but wonder, if Scorpio ended up being 4.5TF to 5TF, would it have sold any better? I really think it would have at launch and overall. The gap between 1.4TF and 4.5TF would still be a larger leap than 1.8TF to 4.2TF. With first party games like Forza 7 hitting 4k/60 with plenty left over in the tank apparently, a 4.5TF-5TF console could more than likely handle that same Forza 7 4k/60, just almost maxed out.
There is also the fact that Scorpio could more than likely have launched 12-6 months sooner, and would also have cost close to $100 less. This leads me to believe that the large majority of XB1X buyers would still have bought it, as well as many more who wanted an XB but just didn't want to pay, or have $500 to spend.

The marketing could remain mostly the same thing. It would still be the worlds most powerful console, and it would technically be capable of 4k/60 as well. It would have to use checkerboarding more often than it does now, but that wouldn't matter if the XB1X wasn't required to last.
In terms of longevity, this would have hurt Scorpio, considering it wouldn't have had the grunt to last as long as the XB1X will be able to, but the question is how long will XB1X remain relevant? Will XB keep their word and eventually make the XB1X the base console and release an upgrade in another 4 years?

Whether 6TF was the better choice, depends more so on what the future plans and execution are for the XB1X.

Seems like they compromised a little on FM7 compared to 6 to get the 4k60fps

CPU limitations most likely. Even with Phil pointing out how balanced the console was supposed to be, the GPU is much more impressive in terms of performance than the CPU. They had some good idea's and used some smart techniques to allow the CPU as much room to breathe as possible, but it's still a Jaguar in the end. They shouldn't have said 4k/60 no compromises initially. It started massive hype, but was pushing the marketing to an extreme. Just 4k/60 would have been much easier to forgive when they announced it would also checkerboard. Even as successful as the PS4 has been, it still has to compromise between 1080p/30 and 900p/60, PS just didn't market the PS4 as 1080p/60 no compromises.

The problem XB may have later on, is if they use a decent CPU that hits 60 fps consistently for XB2, what is going to happen if those same games can't hit 60 fps on the base XB1X in 4 years? We've already seen this with PUBG. It's another reason why I wonder how long XB1X is really going to remain relevant because if it holds back 'next gen' then it may really piss off hardcore XB fans who want or buy an XB2. How many of those XB fans will have upgraded to XB1X and already be unhappy they aren't getting 60 fps due to XB1S, then look at XB2 and wonder is this going to end up the same thing again? Why buy a 100% true 4k/60 no compromises XB2 console, if you know all the games will only end up 30 fps because of XB1X?