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I didn't say 2003 pc games looked better, I said it looks similar and as you say "The only thing I see superior in Max Payne 2 is lighting. Everthing else seems either on par or the conduit has the advantage." They're of similar quality. That doesn't mean the game is bad, but this neither has the art style of something like mario galaxy (or Max pain which noir style makes it look very good), nor the technical proficiency to be proclaimed as graphical tour de force. Also of note was that max pain 2 was teh first game to feature havok physics, so it really was a great looking game for its time.