Really gotta hand it to Microsoft

[EricHiggin]

Pemalite said: 

EricHiggin said:

No 4k BD drive was a decision based on money. Not only would it hurt an eventual expensive SNY 4k BD player, but it would make the Pro way more expensive if sold at cost.

Then what Sony could have done is put in a smaller mechanical disk and included a 4k blu-ray drive for the same cost.
Then they could have created an app that allowed for 4k blu-ray playback and sold that at a small price.

Rather... What Sony has done is handed over a checklist feature to Microsoft.

Your point about changing the hardware specs to make a 4k BD possible has some merit, but whether or not a small enough HDD would even be worthwhile, yet leave room for a 4k BD drive, for $399, being sold at cost, is hard to say back in late 2016. You could even ask, what if they didn't even bother with a mass storage device and add 4k BD instead? They maybe could have just charged $499 and added 4k BD. They didn't though, and it's worked out fine so far.

PS didn't hand anything over. They traded a weaker checklist item for a stronger one. 4k BD or $399? The cheaper price will lead to more sales in the long run for Pro. It should also more than likely help boost PS5 sales due to it having a 4k BD drive, since the price should be right by then. PS is laser focused on balancing the dedicated game console vs media vs extra's vs price problem that trouble's all console launches and sales.

Pemalite said: 

EricHiggin said:

I've seen some vids with XB1X running almost silent, and others where there is clearly a problem of some sort. Most vids do show the XB1X having slightly lesser DB than Pro, in a smaller box. This is surprising to see from XB, but the price of this is a factor, and the reliability still is in question. The Pro has a year of proof that the XB1X doesn't, but we will find out. Not like it is something to stress over, but the scenario and history makes it a factor for a while.

The Xbox One X is pretty quiet.
However... It is a noisy when compared to my launch Xbox One which was literally inaudible, where my external HDD made more noise.

I think the concerns of reliability can be safely put behind us for both console manufacturers, I doubt Microsoft will make a return to the RROD days.

The XB1X hardware overall is impressive based on it's, how much tech can we give you without giving away the farm, business plan that XB and PS follow now. Since giant hardware subsidies are a thing of the past, XB1X fits the bill, I don't argue that one bit. It is quiet for it's size and performance.

I don't expect XB1X to have the same major RROD problems that the 360 had, because that would basically be the final nail in the XB coffin, but at this point in time I can't rule it out completely though. All I can say is that Pro now holds the reliability crown due to it's year advance release, just like how XB1X now holds the performance crown due to it's extra year of development. Pro could very well lose it's reliability crown to XB1X eventually, just like how XB1X could lose it's performance crown to another PS console eventually.