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Kerotan said:

I have in the past specifically said it needs to beat them to succeed but also in the past and present I've obviously said it doesn't.  In fact I've said it doesn't many more times then not.  

And the last few weeks I've changed my tune to it doesn't.  it can't be laid out any clearer then that.  

And those posts are nowhere near as bad as you sound.  For a man who regularly sites context,  you are ignoring the context here. 

Post #3

I'm just talking sense so not sure why that was listed. 

Post #4 

Actually on second reading this talks sense aswell.  I said it only needs to sell 20m to be successful and even went as low as 15m. 

So what exactly are you calling out here?  I've said it more often then not that beating 3DS+Wii U is not a requirement to be successful.  so in hindsight I actually believe I used to say it had to beat them but those posts don't show it.  Maybe I've started to believe the lies people regularly talk about me on here,  when they re write my history.  Is there actually a case where I say it has to beat them? 

And I look forward to your reply to @kyuu because he's making a very valid point. 

If you're changing the way you decide to compare platforms on a weekly basis, then it's pointless even having a discussion with you.

Posts 1 and 2 have been discussed to death already, and we've already come to an agreement as a mod team and a community on your general attitude. Post 3 is there for the contradiction; you directly state that a hybrid platform needs to sell the combined numbers of the previous platforms, which implies if it doesn't then it's not a success. Post 4 is there because of the silly sales goals it apparently has in the world of Kerotan to be successful, talking about how it "only" needs to sell 15-20 Million to be a success (especially when Japan as a market is shrinking and moving towards smartphones).

It's ludicrous. 

You literally say at the top of your post that in the past you've "specifically said it needs to beat them to succeed". These are your own words. Stop moving the goalposts.

Kyuu doesn't need a reply, because there's nothing more to agree or disagree on.

RolStoppable said:

The 3DS's successor is already out, so the 3DS has been followed up with a traditional gaming platform in the context you speak of, a dedicated gaming system.

Smartphones aren't the next logical step for Nintendo games at all; what they are is the logical step for are tie-ins, so smartphones are similar to television where you can find shows based on Nintendo's IPs in the past and present. There's a reason why Nintendo's smartphone titles aren't like the real deal; what Nintendo does on smartphones is not intended to replace handheld gaming at all, the intent is to funnel people to Nintendo's dedicated gaming hardware. That has already proven to work and Nintendo isn't going to change this strategy.

I think that smartphones are the next logical step for Nintendo profits while the market for traditional handheld gaming shrinks.