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mZuzek said:
Soundwave said:

You're never going to get something better than the original trilogy, I think people just need to let that expectation go. Too many things went right for Star Wars the first time around, it's too difficult to top that. 

It's not about expecting something to live up to the original trilogy, since basing expectations on previous work is always a crappy mentality. The expectation isn't for the new movies to blow the original trilogy out of the water, it's for them to be good movies and be able to stand on their own. Force Awakens could have been a decent movie, but it was executed poorly and too often lost in fan service - Rogue One on the contrary was good because of the fan service, but it still doesn't stand as its own thing.

It's not like the original trilogy is this holy grail of moviemaking either, right? Only Empire was a truly amazing movie, the other two were good/great at best.

Empire is the holy grail in terms of the "Hollywood blockbuster" model. I think only Raiders of the Lost Ark, Wrath of Khan, Terminator 2, maaaaybe 1999's Matrix, and Fellowship of the Ring, perhaps The Dark Knight are even on that level (and I mean on level, not even). Return of the Jedi is underrated too IMO, the scenes with Luke/Vader/Emperor reach a level very, very few films in the fantasy/sci-fi genre will ever touch. You can palpably "feel" the struggle Luke has and the anger coming out of him is spot on, everything about that is so well written and really understated by people. 

It's hard to make "movies stand on their own" when you are talking about like the 7th/8th/9th/10th movie in any franchise. I mean do any of the current Marvel movies "stand on their own"? Would you know what the hell is going on in Captain America Civil War without having seen like 5 other Marvel movies?Probably not.