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StarDoor on 26 August 2017
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Turkish said:
JWeinCom said:

The reason that people use months old data, is because since stocks do change people tend to give market caps at particular benchmarks, such as the end of a fiscal year, as the person I was replying to did.  I provided the link to specifically show that this data is not definitive proof, as that person was claiming.  I further explained that market cap is not equivelant to the worth of the company.  Cause it's not.

Uhhh... 

I don't know why we're going to look at just one quarter of financial results to determine company value.  I also was completely unaware that the Switch was already "their most popular console", or that console launches were supposed to be a particularly profitable time.  Considering that Sony lost about 128 billion yen after the PS4 launch, maybe we shouldn't expect this to be Nintendo's most profitable time.

In other words, pointing out that Sony's profits were a hundred million dollars or so more in one quarter is a pretty poor argument to show that Sony is more profitable or more popular.


Your personal travels are meaningless.  https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/anecdotal  When you actually do that representative poll worldwide, or can provide a link to one, let me know.  The only thing you posted that approaches evidence is the list of brands that you provided, but then quickly ignored when it showed that Nintendo is actually more popular.  

"In other words, pointing out that Sony's profits were a hundred million dollars or so more in one quarter is a pretty poor argument to show that Sony is more profitable or more popular." No one made that argument, the argument was that Playstation was more profitable and popular, not Sony. This interaction started whether a spun off Playstation would be worth more than Nintendo, as did the argument which company is worth more today. And about Nintendoes most popular console, of course I meant their fastest selling console.

Both my statements are correct. Playstation is indeed more profitable and popular as they sell more consoles and make more money, and Sony has a bigger market cap. Not sure what arguments need to be started here. You're right you don't need to hear about my travels, because you already know PS4 is indeed the best selling and most popular console on the maket, my anecdotes only explain Sony ain't lying.

How would PlayStation alone be worth more than Nintendo when Sony has five divisions that are more profitable than PlayStation, yet the overall market cap for all of Sony combined is only 5% higher than Nintendo?

Turkish said:

 Division performance ranked from best to worst:

Semiconductors 55.4Bn yen profit

Financial Services 46.2Bn yen profit

Music 25Bn yen profit

Imaging Products & Solutions (IP&S) 23.2Bn yen profit

Home Entertainment & Sound (HE&S) 22.6Bn yen profit

Game & Network Services (G&NS) 17.7Bn yen profit

Mobile Communications (MC) 3.6Bn yen profit

Pictures 9.5Bn yen loss

Apparently, you must think that Sony could multiply its stock value by six times if all of its divisions split up into separate companies.

Also, saying that Sony sells more consoles is dubious, since the only timeframe for which that's true is the last 4 years:
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=230847&page=1

They've only sold more since the PS4 launched: In other words, they've sold more only when you look at Nintendo's worst generation and exclude the 3DS's best two years on top of that. During the fifth gen, Nintendo was ahead. During the sixth gen, Sony and Nintendo sold nearly equal amounts. During the seventh gen, Nintendo was significantly ahead. Only during the eighth gen has Sony been significantly ahead.