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Angelus on 23 July 2017
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spurgeonryan said:
Angelus said:
I just saw a Spider-Man movie where he could barely contend with 2 dudes in a van, cus they had some fancy gadgets. He also couldn't hold a candle to the Vulture during the whole movie. Now, the next time we see him, Marvel wants me to believe he can be useful against Thanos. Sure.

As for that trailer itself, can't really make out too much of it, but I'm glad there isn't any joking in it.

You got to remember he is still just a kid,  learning his powers and what his suit does.  They will expect you to believe that by then he will be much more capable. The consensus on the internet is that Spiderman holds back too. 

He stopped a train in Spiderman 2. He held a boat together in this last movie.  Had a building fall on him until he realized aunt mae wasn't coming to save him as he threw that shot off him. 

 

Also.... Just believe---

What they expect, is apparently that the audience is stupid.

They expect me to believe that in Civil War, Spidey could tango with the Winter Soldier and Falcon at the same time (without breaking a sweat), and compete with Captain America (who he should really beat anyway except it's Cap's movie and he keeps getting power ups in every new movie he's in), but then months later, after having had a lot more time to experiment with his new suit, he's regressed to being a total scrub. All for the purposes of making an origin movie that isn't an origin movie. It's not altogether surprising, considering the Marvel movies treat pretty much all their heroes with wild inconsistency across the board, but it's just especially flagrant here, and Infinity War is going to take it to downright absurd levels.

Also, this iteration of Spiderman has nothing to do with Spiderman 2, so the train sequence is irrelevant. The boat in Homecoming....he's never actually holding it together at all. His webs hold it together briefly, and when that fails, and he himself tries to hold it together, Iron Man comes in instantaneously. It wasn't at all like in the trailer where they made it seem like Spidey was able to hold it for a little while. This Spiderman is also definitely NOT holding back. He's an overeager, excitable teenager, desperately trying to prove himself. At no point in Civil War or Homecoming is he restraining himself whatsoever. 

So now, after watching both amateur Shockers, and Vulture beat Spidey's ass nonstop for a whole movie, we're supposed to buy that he can help in a fight with Thanos for the fate of the world/galaxy/universe? That's taking suspension of disbelief to a whole new level.