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JWeinCom said:
monocle_layton said:

Thanks for the info about its origins. I can see where you're coming from now

Yeah.  The problem is there's no like "first church of atheism", so there are a lot of different ways the terms are used.  Some people do use it like you do, others use weak atheism vs strong atheism, and some people indeed do use agnostic to avoid calling themselves atheists.  I personally find this to be the clearest use of terminology.  

TargaryenVers2 said:

Again, many of those in power use feelings instead of logic to dictate political decisions, because they are voted by the people, which also use gut feelings and what they think is "gross," which is why many states in the US still lags behind regarding lgbt rights (as well as climate change, healthcare, etc), as well as for the longest time racial and sex inequality.

I'm fine with individuals thinking I'm gross, I couldn't care less. The problem is those discomforts internalize for many people and change voting patterns for people that ultimately lead to negative consequences for the lgbt community. 

How do you suggest then that you change those discomforts?  I can think of ways to change laws and make logical arguments, but I really can't think of a way to change those kinds of things.

If it helps, I see creationism as a possibility, but the iron age books seem ridiculous to me. 

 

I also try to operate based on reason and evidence. The greater the claim: the greater the body of evidence required to substantiate it. The claim of 'this is god' would require so much evidence I don't think I could ever believe it.

 

The only conclusion for me is that noone can ever know the nature of god. That is what it means to be agnostic to me: the belief and acceptance that noone will ever know god.