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VideoGameAccountant said:
JRPGfan said:

Most devs would be happy if their game looks like it ll break 5m.

How many adventure games do much better these days?

Keep in mind Sony's first party ventures are supposed to be what is selling the system. The same goes for Nintendo and Microsoft. For comparison, numerous Wii U games sold better than Heavy Rain including Smash, Splatoon, NSMBU and Mario Kart 8. This is on a system that sold 13 million. Despite the PS3 not doing well, it sure as heck did better than the Wii U.

To vivster's question, I think the problem is two-fold. First, Sony doesn't build long-running series that can keep customers coming back. The Wii U still had hits because people love Mario Kart and Smash. But Sony seems to kill a series off every so often. God of War was hot during the PS2 days but then it just kind of disappeared. Remember Jack and Dexter? Twisted Metal? Look at Playstation All-Stars on the PS3. Outside of Nathan, what character is still kicking? Even with Horizon doing well, I expect that series will be in the gutter before too long. Outside of Uncharted, Sony doesn't have a strong IP. Even Microsoft has some notable series like Halo, Gears of War, Fabel and the Rare games. 

The second is Sony games don't seem to be any better than most games on the market. Again, look at Halo. This game made the XBox the home of console shooters because it was a great game. Then take, say, God of War. It didn't make the PS2 an action game enclave. You could also get games like Devil May Cry and Ninja Gaiden that were just as good if not better. Likewise, with Horizon, you can find open world games that are just as good or better. You can just as easily buy Skyrim, Minecraft or Zelda and get the same experience. Sony isn't making better games then the other third party companies, so they don't stand out. 

I guess were just going to have to agree to disagree. The reason I have no worries or concerns about owning a Sony console is that they will make games that may not sell 10's of millions but are unusual and or different to what AAA developers are doing. OK Horizon is very close to a ubisoft title in terms of in game mechanics, but I wouldnt have expected a AA studio to have taken such a chance on the characters/timeframe/story of this game.

Heavy Rain is a perfect example, apparently MS turned this title down. Sony paid them for 3 games (with detroit being the 3rd). I really hope Sony continue to fund David Cages studio as they are doing things that not many companies are doing. God of War's last effort was at the end of the PS3 era, just like GT, Sony continued to support the console even though the PS4 was coming out (unlike others I may add :). The games still sold OK but were never going to do as well as the previous entries just because of timing. Credit to sony to release them on PS3 though, because while that other console gave up a year or two before, sony supported the PS3 up until the end.

Looking at the PS4 games from Sony coming out, there isnt one that I wont get, I really think they have such a good breadth of games. In fact the PS4 is quickly becoming my favourite console in terms of library. What with whats coming out this year and next, I think its definately eclipsing the PS1/2 era. Thats how good Sony have been.



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