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Soundwave on 14 May 2017
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Turkish said:
Soundwave said:

Playstation has appeal to every group sure. 

That doesn't mean there isn't a window there for Nintendo. Sure Sony will have 30-40 year olds too, but there also are more than than a few that I think are going to pass on a PS5.

When you get into your 30s-40s the amount of time, you don't have for a lot of people nearly as much time to game. Switch is something where you can scratch your gaming itch on the 20-25 minutes you have on your subway commute to work or that flight you have on a work conference, and still play a little on the TV when you're at home ... rather than the alternative which is basically quit gaming or just game on smart devices. 

A dedicated home console like a PS5 is only really worth it if you play a lot. I'm seeing this already with a lot of my friends in this age range, they basically just bought a PS4 or XB1 out of habit (because they had the previous ones), but those systems get little use now that they're older and don't have the daily schedule they had at age 25. Honestly I think several of them will just pass on a PS5/XB2, not because Sony/MS are doing anything wrong, it's just not worth it anymore. All they want to do is play a little FIFA or NHL and a couple of other titles these days. 

Most people don't even have time as they get older to watch their Netflix back catalog, let alone spend 60 hours+ on a single video game. That works when you are in your 20s, in your 30s that can get very complicated. Of course some do it, but just as many don't. 

I'm not saying Nintendo needs to get everyone here, but say 15-20 million, that would be less than 10% of the combined XB + PS audience, that I think is doable. That's not an outrageous number. If the sales proposition a few years down the line is a Switch that's about on par with a PS4 (Tegra X3 chip) versus a PS5 with betterer 8k graphics or something, I think Nintendo has a decent shot to actually win a chunk of those gamers. Convienance is going to trump just shinier graphics at some point. 

Disagree, people have hours of free time after work. They have more free time at home than commuting. When you're 9-5 you have all evening. Plenty of +30 age people I know come home and crave for a plug n play dedicated machine like the PS4 either for games or series/movies. They get married their wives watch netflix, they get kids their kids ask for CoD or Fifa and the cycle continues. Millions of people watch TV in the evening, prime time is a thing.  Even if they have only 1 hour, thats an episode or 2 of a show or a decent number of online matches. In fact I think Sony said the +30 group is one of their strongest demographic. I think as long as people have homes and TVs, Playstation will always be a thing. With PS Now and PS Vue they've already covered the long term.

That whole commuting argument was played out years ago, people didn't switch over with the DS/PSP, and then came smartphones that were expected to kill consoles. Switch isn't gonna make a difference to the PS install base. People have more responsibilites as they grow yes, but that hasn't negatively affected the Playstation brand in over a decade. Not many people will need an extra device to play games when they have a mobile. Console type games are not short session games so it's not exactly meant for commuting. If I play Zeruda I'd do it for 2-3 hours, when Im 20 minute commuting I'd play some short iOS game or chess. Dont forget that a lot of people buy handhelds and never take it outside, when I buy a Switch it'll be for home use.

I understand what you're saying but I dont see it happening, I want Switch to be successful by taking market share from smart devices, not eating in to console sales.

Not every 30+ year old is in that boat. Sitting on your couch for 3 hours after work to play video games isn't realistic for a lot of people once they have a fiance/wife + kids especially. 

Smart devices is the reddest ocean there is, and it has the killer app of free games that no console maker can match, they're never going to make real headway there. 

But there are a lot of people IMO who are probably going to drop out of console gaming because they're simply getting older and the form factor of traditional consoles doesn't fit their life style anymore. 

A lot of gamers are going into their 40s this gen, I know a lot of friends who have just stopped playing on consoles pretty much full stop. 

The form factor of the Switch is more in line wit the future of what's coming IMO, giant boxes underneath the TV just to play video games are going to fade away over time IMO.