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mZuzek said:
GameAnalyser said:

It's actually a mixed bag and rotten tomatoes have certified it fresh much earlier so as to not affect the Fandango bookings/pre-sales for the big OW when it comes to fans. Can you believe former executive of Disney  being the current president of Fandango had a famous quote once, "Yes, selling movie tickets is the core business, but really, we're trying to activate people's love of movies."  So the studio that needs to be benefitted is also in the interest and the same entity runs Rotten Tomatoes. There is compelling stuff that can make me never rely on RT fresh certifications anymore and this needs to be given a serious thought. Ghostbusters being a clear cut example before.

The good thing for us moviegoers is Metacritic still stands as an independent entity and would not be kind to these movie thereby taking all ticket agents out of the equation.  It has every chance to end up with a Metascore as low as 59 to 60 once all critics give their critiques, generally where movies are well represented when it comes to average score. Many sources have already reported the movie to be over-reliant on musical cues and lacks the fresh stuff as the original. So, yet ending up certified fresh on RT close to two weeks before its release raises so many questions.

Why do you need to be so obsessed about what critics are saying, and which critic aggregators should be doing the movie most "justice"? Why is it so important that it ends up with a 59 on Metacritic, as if in the end that's going to have any impact on anyone's enjoyment of it? Everyone who goes to the theater and watches the movie will come out of there with an opinion, that could very well be different from any arbitrary number on RottenTomatoes, Metacritic, IMDb or whatever else.

Honestly, the more time passes and the more I think about it, the more convinced I am that Vol. 2 is the better one out of the two GotG movies (watched the first one again yesterday, and really started to notice how much I'd rather be watching the second). There are plenty of reasons why it might have not struck a chord with critics, but I feel like the main one was the expectation. Everyone was taken by surprise by the first movie, and that was 3 years ago - during those 3 years, the big surprise of GotG became a sort of nostalgia-fueled memory, while this time everyone had high expectations for the second one, and about what it should be, and what it shouldn't be.

What Vol. 2 definitely is, is a different movie. Whereas the first one was great all-around (awesome characters, stellar music, great humor, nice story, breathtaking locales, fantastic action and some actually pretty emotional moments), the second one is far less balanced. It improved greatly upon the characters and the emotion (the two things I loved most about Vol. 1), retained the quality of the music and the humor, but sacrificed some of the story, variety of amazing locales and most of the action scenes, at the expense of some of the pacing, too. So the end result is, while Vol. 1 is a super exhilariating, fast-paced, explosive journey, Vol. 2 is much slower and more personal.

You see, I wasn't alive in 1980 to know this for sure, and I might be talking bullshit here, but from everything I've seen and everything I know, I feel like when Empire Strikes Back came out, most people didn't think it was as good as the original Star Wars. It was more heavy on the characters, more emotional and stuff, but people didn't feel the same "freshness" or excitement as they did with the first one, so they just couldn't see it as being as good. Obviously, given time, the whole world realized just how much of a better movie Empire Strikes Back was - and it's something I think (or at least hope) will happen to GotG Vol. 2 as well.

Edit: also, nice to see Rocket making it to the top of the poll. As biased as I am, I feel like this time he was genuinely the standout.

"Why do you need to be so obsessed about what critics are saying. "

It's not being obssessed, it's about being bothered by skewed scores of movies on online review sites with the exception of few.

I don't support fresh certifications like they did for Ghostbusters on RT  when the audience score clearly reflects it as a godawful movie and it is indeed. The movie tickets like Fandango have such review sites/scores integrated into its website which misleads movie-goers for a good movie.

I can guarantee, a good number of audience would end up having the same complaint with vol.2, once it releases by the weekend.