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Soundwave on 29 April 2017
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MisterManGuy said:
Soundwave said:

Was Wii Music great use of Nintendo's creativity? Or even Wii Fit? 

C'mon. Nintendo is too good for that, it's like having a great film director work on TV commercials. It's beneath him/her. 

We do have women playing games, we have more women playing games today than at any point, way more than even the Wii/DS era. Smartphones completely fill the need for that audience and you can't beat free. 

They like playing games on that format. They like free games. So let them have their segment of the market, why does everyone need to buy a $300 system and pay $50-$60 for a game. That is rightfully so something for enthusiast gamers. We don't need to keep banging a square peg into a round hole. 

Those PS4 sales and Switch sales are not regressive either, it's just good business. If they want to do something for seniors make a Quality of Life device for them, senior citizens don't need a freaking $300 game system that pushes a 100 million polygons.

Wii Music was more of an exeption to the rule. What about games like Rhythm Heaven, Art Academy, Puzzle games, Visual Novels, and other casual genres Nintendo has done? What do you expect them to do, banish those games to smartphones with no Switch release ever? Nintendo is better than that. Nintendo still wants the Switch to be for casual gamers too, and you should be asking them to just limit thier audience growth just because you don't like it. 

Whether you want to accept it or not, hardcore gamers are the minority. Hell you think the PS4 is selling off of core gamers alone? No, it's also selling to those who want a media player to play some games on the side as well, IE, casual gamers. Hell, Nintendo's whole strategy with mobile gaming is to entice casual gamers to buy a Switch. Don't tell me "But it's $300 with $60 games, casuals will never buy that". If Apple has taught us anything, it's that consumers will buy expensive shit as long as it's desirable. The Switch both in hardware and software, is desirable, therefore consumers are buying it. 

Targeting casual gamers isn't shoving a square peg through a round hole when the Switch is designed to be as casual friendly as possible. What with 1-2 Switch, the Joy-Con sharing, even something like Breath of the Wild is designed to make the open world genre accessible to newcommers who may not have as much time to play games as more hardcore gamers do.

So no, targeting the core gamer exclusively is a loosing strategy, and making games only for that safe-bet audience is stifling to Nintendo's developers. Do you ever think the developers behind 1-2 Switch or Wii Fit made those games because they thought it'd be fun? Nintendo isn't the company who listens to what Armchair CEOs on the internet think, or what meaningless charts say when developing games. They make the games they want to play, not what market research want to play.

It's not a losing strategy. 1-2 Switch is not carrying Switch sales at all, if you remove Zelda, the Switch would be collecting dust on storeshelves. 1,2 Switch is selling on par with something like Nintendo Land, lets not get confused here as what is really pushing Switch hardware. 

Apple is a unique company that border line became a fashion company and they are a big part of the reason why the well for casuals has been poisoned. They have gotten that audience used to free games and now they don't want anything else. Forget $60 ... they won't even pay 10 bucks for a Mario game. That tells you a lot. 

FREE kicks the shit out of buttons to casuals. They don't even want buttons in the first place, so you have free games + more intuitive interfaces + a more convienant device in a smartphone. 

Besides Switch is selling great and PS4 is selling on pace with the PS2 ... what's the problem here? Sony just had their biggest profit in almost 20 years, Nintendo is inching back to a billion dollar profit. We are seeing record breaking sales every which way. 

But it's not successful because ... grandma didn't buy one? Meh. Screw that. Not every product needs to be every thing for every imaginable demographic on the face of the planet.