malistix1985 said:
Well the Scorpio isn't competing with the NS but with the PS4Pro but I think its more lifting on the hype of 4k content/4k televisions becoming the standard, just like sony did last year. Yeah I am also really pumped to know whats inside last year Phil Spencer did say the scorpio technology wasn't available to launch it closer so it would make no sense for it to have the same ancient cpu as the current gen consoles I think Ryzen is a given personally. But obv. its a waiting game it will be a game changer in framerates for open world games and in native 4k, altough cpu's are generally not the "biggest" deal in this because the PS4/XBO/Ps4Pro all use a laptop cpu it does become a bottleneck. Anyway all we know is it has 320gb/s memory bandwith with 12GB GDDR5X and a 8 "core" cpu with a 6tflops card right now, I think the recently announced RX580, which is a little over 6Tflops and hosts a refresh of the ps4pro graphics card technology would be the obvious choise as whats in the GPU, combine that with the bigger memory bus, memory amount, memory speed and potentially a faster CPU and yeah Xbox is right that will be an extremely visable difference as proven on pc's with those kinds of differences many times. Also I think Horizon Zero Dawn runs from 1800P upscaled, which is 75% native 4k, so with that speed boost it could run that game in native 4k, obv its a ps4 exclusive but its also one of the better looking games this generation, so microsoft can make its claims come true, my GPU in my PC does many games native 4k especially if I would target 30fps and its quite a bit slower then their target. |
Scorpio isn't exactly competing head to head with Switch like they are with PS4, but since Switch is being deemed a console, I wonder if its another numbers thing? Having Switch console sales overtake XB1/Scorpio sales would put XB in last place this gen. They clearly dont like showing they are behind PS, so maybe they are worried about ending up behind both PS and NiN? The fact that NiN has a lot of hype going for them, on top of the momentum PS has, XB must be feeling a little claustrophobic right about now.
They could have built a semi custom Jaguar/Excavator and Polaris APU last year. The wait almost has to be for Ryzen, Vega, or both. The only other thing I can think of is that maybe this new TSMC "12nm" process is worth the 1 year wait over their 16nm process that PS4/Pro/XB1S uses. Ryzen and Polaris/Vega on 14nm makes the most sense to me. I also think PS4SS/ProS is potentially a possibility later this year with "12nm", so it wouldn't be surprising to see Scorpio using "12nm" as well either.
The 580 is rumored to hit over 6Tflops, but I think thats around 1200MHz or up there anyway. If their touting how compact Scorpio is, it must not run all that hot, so I would have to assume they would still have to downclock the 580 by a fair amount, much like the Pro, which would put the GPU well below 6Tflops. I have always figured that if they go with Polaris to save on costs, that they will basically create a custom 490/590, with more CU's, etc, so they can run the GPU around 900MHz, give or take, and still get 6Tflops.
Without knowing more detailed specs or what their general price point is, they could end up doing many things with Scorpio's hardware. The rumors say its a powerhouse, but thats what they said about Pro as well, until the 4.2Tflops specs leaked. Oh the mystery. Once we have a better Idea of what's in it, we'll be able to better pin down what it will and won't be able to do, how much its probably going to cost, and how well it may sell.
