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Soundwave on 21 March 2017
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Miyamotoo said:
Soundwave said:

No it can't, lol, some of your reasoning isn't even logical. "Smaller device = automatically cheaper" ... uh what? You still need the same processor, the same RAM, etc. etc.

Beyond the pricing issue, there's also the physical thermal issue, that 20nm chip consumes what it does ... and there's no changing that. You could have the fan blow more air but that fan doesn't magically operate for free, you then need more battery to power the fan, and even then in a smaller enclosure heat is likely to build up quickly. That could be quite dangerous quite honestly, 20nm chips that have the processing power of a Tegra X1 are not designed to be in form factors that small, to get that chip into even a design as small as the Switch currently is likely was a engineering feat in and of itself.

That's why Nvidia has no phone vendors willing to use the Tegra X1 chip ... it runs way too hot for most smartphones and even smaller tablets. 

These things are not as simple as you are making them out to be. Nintendo doesn't magically get to tell their suppliers to shave off $100 either when the components you're describing simply do not add up to $100. That dock does not cost more than $10 to make ... JoyCon straps c'mon that's maybe a $1 in real world manufacturing cost. They'd save closer to $50 altogether ... and for $50 less, really how many people are going to be willing to buy a model with a smaller screen, no TV out, one that likely is louder because of consant fan usage, no Joycons just to save $50, it's a very gimped model. It would be the PSP Go of Switch models. 

I really don't understand why you trying to prove here, because you dont make any sense. Offcrouse that same devaice with smaller form factor, with smaller screen, smaller battery, less used materials (plastic, PCB, etc),less used parts because doesn't need to work in TV mode just in handheld mode, without Dock, without Joy Cons, without cables, with smaller package and less shipping costs...will cost much less than current Switch.

I am pretty sure you thought that Tegra X1 could hardly operate even in current Switch, but reality is that current Switch doenst have any heat issues. We know that Tegra X1 does not operate at full clock in Switch, GPU operating at just 307 MHz. Like I wrote, I am pretty sure they would make cooling on acceptable level for smaller form factor. Smaller screen and smaller battery also means less heat because they also producing heat.

Tegra X1 chip is overkill for phones from various reasons, phones don't need such strong GPU and they usual go for stronger CPU. So you're comparison with phones again is bad.

You are wrong, I wrote you above what all things they can cut. Also have on mind that Nintendo doesn't need to cut exactly $100 of costs from current Switch model, they can cut for instance $80 and to still make $100 price difference and to go with smaller profit with device that's $100 cheaper on market, and that actually totally make sense, cheaper device and smaller profit than more expensive.

Also I dont completle rule posibilite of Tegra X2 for Switch Mini/Pocket, but I am pretty sure they would make Mini/Pocket even with current Switch cheap.

Like I wrote, "at end situation is very simple and obvious, current Switch already has more higher price point and screen is already big, so there any need for making actually even more price Switch with even more bigger screen, but definitely there is need to release smaller, chepar Switch just for handheld play when 3DS dies, and that will effectively replace 3DS/3DSXL segment on market".

We know the Tegra X1 even in undocked mode eats battery like crazy and even gets so hot at times that it requires the fan to come on even in portable mode. 

You think you can put that same chip in a much smaller chasis and say "well, ok guys figure out some wonder fan that will magically cool this". 

Chip engineering doesn't work like that, lol. 

The Switch's form factor as is today likely cannot be any smaller without heating problems, that's why there's a fairly large bezel (the Switch actually has two bezels, lol, the big fat black border and then another black trim around that) ... the unit has to be that size, if it was smaller it would overheat. 

How small of a screen are you talking? Like 3 inches? Because going down to 5 inches is not going to magically give you an extra hour of battery life. 

You want too many things out of a chip that simply cannot do all that, the chip you are asking for is a Tegra X2. 

There aren't a ton of parts that make the system go into "TV mode" either. It's the chip that does all the processing and that chip is going to be in your small version no matter what, you're not saving a ton there. Like the way you're describing it is there's all types of extra plastic (?) and extra moving parts that somehow enable the system to output in TV mode ... that's not the case.