Miyamotoo said:
Soundwave said:
I don't even see $330 as a price point period.
Tech scales in cost with time, I realize this concept is hard for some Nintendo fans to understand (since Nintendo has never really used any reasonably powered tech for like 10 years now), but if it wasn't true then the Slim XBox One and Slim PS4 should cost more than the old PS4/XB1 ... they use effectively a new chip (at 16nm). And PS4 Pro should cost more than the launch PS4 ... it's twice as powerful, but yet it only costs the same $399.99 magically.
And iPhones and Samsung Galaxy phones should increase in price point every year, after all it's impossible to have increasing power/better screens and this year over year for crying out loud, and not have to charge more.
No, more like you are talking something like $249.99 with game included for a smaller Switch and $299.99 for a pro model by 2018. Both can use the Tegra X2 chip. Technology scales people ... especially mobile technology and Nintendo has not done something stupid this time like using some weird propietary chip with a wacky RAM setup or expensive 3D screen tech that no one else is using. They are going to be able to benefit from scaling technology costs very easily, something the Wii U could not do.
Inflation is a thing too, you can't expect Nintendo to forever have things at $150-$200 ... that's not how real life works. $250-$300 will eventually become the new $150-$200.
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I perfectly understand concept, and actually I was on one first here that predicted this concept.
Comparison with PS4 Slim or XB1 Slim doesn't make any sense because you talking about bigger Switch not smaller. Thats why 3DS XL is $200 while regular 3DS is $150. Pro was released 3 years after PS4 launch, not one year after launch, so bad comparison again. Same goes for iPhone and Samsung phones comparisons, because you talking about phones that have yearly or earlier upgrades of models.
Its not point if Nintendo can do that, point why Nintendo would do that so fast. You again totaly ignoring clear fact that there is no need for XL Switch model so fast when Switch already have big screen for handheld gaming console, while on other hand there will be huge need for smaller/cheaper Switch when 3DS dies. And like I wrote above, we had infos that Nvidia gave great offer Nintendo with X1 chips and that was one of reason why Nintendo went with Nvidia for Switch, maybe we talking about tens of millions X1 chips for Switch.
Of Course that inflation and price cuts are things, but you talking about next year, not something in around 3-4 years. At end of next year you cant have regular Switch for $150-200, but you could have Switch Mini/Pocket for that price that would practically replace 3DS/3DSXL on market.
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Nintendo does release revisions very fast ... 3DS XL came very early in the product cycle. Beyond that I think the Switch was actually planned for fall 2016, they missed it just because of software, but the hardware is old, so much so that there's already the successor chip (Tegra X2) available.
This was not the case with the PS4/XB1, there was no 16nm variant of those chips available for mass production in 2013, 28nm was what they had to choose because there was no other choice.
I'm actually not talking about a "bigger Switch" is size, I'm saying the screen could be made a bit bigger ... but that's not going to radically make it cost $100 more or something. LCD screens are cheap these days, especially since Nintendo is not exactly using things like high end Retina type displays. They are using displays that may as well be on budget $120 Chinese tablets.
More models make Nintendo more money too. That's just how it goes ... like I said between 2003-2014 they released 11 different portable models in 11 years. They do that because it makes them money. Not because they're on some search for the "perfect SKU" ... that's not the goal. There is no "perfect SKU". Different users have different needs, your goal as a company is to exploit that and make money.
There will be 4, 5 different Switch models before the 2022 ends, quite possibily even more to be honest. You will see a ton of different versions.
I don't even think Nintendo is "just thinking" about this stuff. If you could walk into their R&D lab right now, I'd bet money you would see physical, actual playable Switch models, some with bigger displays, some with the Tegra X2 already inside of them. These already exist, I'd bet money on it, their R&D team was done with what we're playing today ages ago in design terms. They've likely had access to the X2 silicon since last year easily and probably the first thing they did was put that chip into the existing Switch chasis and start playing around with it.
Mobile chip tech also scales much, much faster in cost than desktop components (like what Sony/MS use). Every iPhone is like double the previous one without increasing in price like every 12-14 months. This is a whole different ball game folkes.
