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Soundwave on 06 February 2017
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RolStoppable said:
Soundwave said:

No usually those indie studios are maybe 1-2 guys who are burnt out of AAA development, but the dirty little secret they don't tell you is that a lot of their programming/design/art staff is filled up with relative novices or lower end employees. 

Why would a top flight programmer or designer or artist work for your little dinky studio for 1/4 the salary? In most cases they don't. It's also why a lot of these studios flounder without the proper guidance of a larger studio with a larger budget, like the Retro guys who left Retro because they were tired of working on Metroid games, well they've produced jack shit since then. 

Indie studios are overrated IMO, they have quirky high concepts and fun art styles, yes, but when you break down the game play/design aspects of many of these games it's clear they are really more realistically amateur games. The real top talent works for the real top studios because people kinda like getting paid what they are worth in any profession (and if they don't there's usually a wife or young child at home that has a way of bringing priorities into focus pretty damn fast). 

Either way it's neither here nor there, the Switch will get plenty of indie games, more than probably anyone can play in one life time, just because those games are ported to every viable platform under the sun. PC, PS4, XB1, Switch will all get those same games. It's not worth losing sleep over any of that, like oh noez maybe we won't get Super Meat Boy, how will we ever survive with just Mario. Most of these indie devs just want to make Nintendo style knock off games, except Nintendo does that better than them in almost every case. 

You didn't address the 5/10 gameplay of most AAA games.

Because they don't usually have 5/10 gameplay. It's usually 7/10-8/10 in that range ... if you're going to tell me all of COD, Madden, Batman Arkham, Mortal Kombat, Dark Souls, Battlefield, FIFA, NBA 2K, NHL, etc. are just 5/10 game play ... lol, sorry I would disagree. 

It doesn't really even matter anyway since the Switch isn't getting those games as you are so keen to point out. 

I prefer those games simply because Nintendo doesn't make those games, whereas most indie games do tend to fall into some kind of range of something Nintendo might make. There are pleny of 2D platformers and wannabe throw back RPGs, and F-Zero knock offs ... I'd just rather play Nintendo games instead of these types of games. Maybe I'll try out Shovel Knight or something, but if I'm honest if Nintendo had more games at their launch I wouldn't even bother with that. 

Bottom line is who really gives a shit if the Switch sells 80 million just so it can get something like Super Meat Boy. The Super Meat Boy developers or whoever can go blow themselves if they don't want to port to a 40-50 million userbase, at least the top fligh devs have an actual reason in that there are hardware difficulties in porting many of the higher end games and they can't just develop for one random system when the PS4/XB1/PC have a combined userbase that's probably going to be well over 200 million players. 

At least there's a valid business/resources reason there. If some indie studio doesn't want to port their game that could run on the original Wii because 40-50 million Switch owners just isn't enough for them but it's easily technically possible and cheap to do otherwise ... quite frankly they can go get bent as far as I'm concerned. I'm not losing sleep over their little garage team passion project about wanting to make a game about an autistic dog who dreams in black & white and it plays like Earthbound meets Super Metroid (except shittier). Sorry breh. Nintendo fans should just enjoy the Nintendo games they get, the rest of this crap doesn't matter. We're not getting anything special if the system sells great instead of just good and Nintendo's games are not going to be any better/worse. The SNES/N64/GameCube have as many good Nintendo games as the Wii/NES/DS do, maybe even more. Sales have never stopped Nintendo from making their own games great.