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CGI-Quality said:
crissindahouse said:

Halo 3 was bundled a lot but I can't really take Uncharted 4 sales serious if you have to buy it to get a PS4 (which seemed to be the case for most people second half of last year)

I wasn't aware of such a deal, but in my world, a bundled sale, is a bundled sale, is a sale. Forza 2, for example, was a pack-in title with the 360 at one point, but I won't discredit what it did because of that. Wii Sports? Same thing. A sale is a sale.

Sure, but if you can't get a product if you don't buy another product then it's not a wanted purchase. That doesn't change that it was sold but I can't take that serious to use it to measure how successful a product was.

So yes, Uncharted may sell more as Halo 3 but if you would ask every single owner if he was going to buy the game I'm sure Halo 3 would get some  million more "yes" votes. 

That Halo 3 and especially Forza on 360 also sold to many people who didn't even want the games is clear. 

The thing with Halo 3 was that you could still buy consoles without it but there was a time where you could almost not buy PS4's without Uncharted 4 so that there was simply no choice for customers. 

You can call Wii Sports the most successful game ever, I won't call it that just because people had ot buy it (even though it would have sold a crazy amount even without bundle).