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Intrinsic said:
mutantsushi said:

Likewise interesting to see what MS will do, will they match PS5 intro date or wait a year+ and target higher $/spec?

MS won't really have a choice. All this realease stuff really all boils down to availability of tech.Once the 7nm chips come along, sony can do one of two things with the PS5. Make an APU or make a seperate CPU and GPU which will be significantly more powerful but also much more expensive. Sony will not do the latter.Now say 7nm chips come to market around mid to late 2019. Then it means 4nm chips will be at least 4-5 years away. If sony releases a 7nm based onsole in 2020, MS will have to follow suit as it would make no sense not releasing at the same time. Cause even if they waited a year or two after the PS5 released, they would still end up with a console thats similar in power to the PS5. And lastly, the focus on power we have today will become very irrelevant come the next gen. Both console will be able to handle 4k games and at least at 30fps.

Isn't Pro basically PS4 Jag with higher clocks and Pit X2 with a few Polaris and Vega features on 16nm?

I don't see why PS5 couldn't be Ryzen + Vega/Navi, all in a 14nm APU. The node is smaller and more efficient, and the tech in the CPU and GPU is much more advanced and considerably faster than Jag and Pit. They could shoot for 8 to 10 Tflops, 2-3 years after Pro, which would be just another step like PS4 to Pro. I don't think PS wants to have such big power jumps like previous gens, just constant iterations of consistent power steps. This makes FC and BC easier.

This would most likely mean that PS wouldn't be able to cram all that into a tiny box, since the heatsink, fan, and supply would all likely have to be larger than what Pro has now. They would probably have to build PS5 bigger than Pro, so similar in size to the XB1/PS3 (internal supply).

*Edit (forgot to make my Scorpio point)

Depending on whether or not Scorpio is the same or newer tech than this gen, and what node it uses (14/16nm?) XB will most likely want to wait for 7nm to become stable with high yields before launching their next console. If PS5 by chance ends up being on 7nm, than XB will want to launch at that same node as well. Not to mention XB bashing PS about not wanting to launch consoles every few years and how they don't believe in that.



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