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Soundwave on 09 January 2017
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GoOnKid said:
Soundwave said:

You know what else is fun? Diversity of games. When you just piss away entire genres like that, that's not creating "more fun" for the consumer. 

Actually the forces inside Nintendo that pushed Nintendo towards a more kid-centric design should have been fired. Hiroshi Yamauchi was so angry at his son in law Minoru Arakawa during the early part of the SNES/Genesis wars that he publically ripped his own son-in-law in Japanese newspapers, saying Arakawa had allowed Sega to paint Nintendo as a "child's toy". 

Arakawa responded by greenlighting games like Killer Instinct and allowing blood in Mortal Kombat 2, and lo and behold the SNES outsold the Genesis after that in the US. 

IMO, Miyamoto and his ilk were allowed to gain too much power over Nintendo's management and pushed Nintendo into this narrow, brain-dead direction, I bet heavily that Miyamoto was also front and center in insisting CD-ROM not be in the N64 because he wanted a system to cater to his creative fetishes rather than what was best for Nintendo as a whole. 

That's what happens went you let the inmates run the aslyum. Unforuntaely I think Yamauchi gave Miyamoto and that certain group carte blanche to do as they please and they basically ran Nintendo's console division into the gutter. Miyamoto should've stuck to making games. Once he was allowed to have lots of input into hardware/company decisions, that became a big problem. That's what I think happened, towards the mid-1990s, Yamauchi who was geting closer to retirement decided to let Miyamoto and company have way more sway over the business side of the company and it quickly went to shit. 

These anecdotes hold low value because it was Yamauchi himself who was in charge when the Gamecube launched. He decided to go that route.

Soundwave, you are very passionate about Nintendo's wrong decisions in the past, but in all honesty and with no intentions to insult you, could you please stop downtalking them so much? Expressed in internet slang: I'm offended by this! You may not even do it on purpose and it might be your way of talking but I would really appreciate if you could use less negative expressions like "pissing away, brain-dead direction, his creative fetishes, letting the inmates run the asylum, went to shit". Thanks in advance.

Yamauchi had started to step back by the time GameCube went into development, he wasn't as actively involved as by the late 1990s he was preparing to step down as president. 

I don't really think I need to censor my opinions. IMO, Miyamoto was selfish and put himself ahead of Nintendo as a business, and the company suffered horribly as a result. 

He's a great game designer but had no business interjecting himself into the company's decisions like that, at best the only thing he should have been allowed to influence is the N64 having a cartridge slot maybe in lieu of the RAM Expansion Slot. But he or other Nintendo designers should not have had any sway in pushing for CD-ROM to be axed from the N64 entirely. 

Anyone who convinced Yamauchi of that was an idiot. Like sorry, I don't know how else to put it. Just because Wily Wonka is great at making chocolates doesn't mean you put him in charge of the company's accounting division and let him do the tax returns. It's a tough industry, these mistakes haunt Nintendo to this very day. 

They had something wonderful with the NES/SNES, they really did, wonderful 1st party games, terrific 3rd party support, tremendous 2nd party support from Rare, Squaresoft, and Enix effectively, and they completely destroyed this, and for what? Because Miyamoto didn't like CDs in large part. It's a horrible way for a small group of people to put themselves ahead of the enitre company's well-being.