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Mummelmann on 21 December 2016
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iNathan said:
Mummelmann said:
Hmm, they track the PS4 Pro as a separate console? Wow, these lists will be getting crazy long with PS4 Pro, Xbox One and Scorpio, all the 3DS versions, Wii U and Switch with possible different versions.
We're gonna need to change the front page!

Also; PS4 Pro sales are poor, it seems I was right in thinking that it won't be spurring the PS4 into a fantastic 2017, or the fabled 20 million selling CY.

It's sold out across Japan, why do some people keep saying things like this when we have been repeating over and over again , get over it, Ps4 will sell 20m on 2017, probably more. 

Get over it? Get over what? How does it affect me in any way? I already own a PS4, and it's not like I'll be sad or angry if it sells 20 million in one CY. What I've been saying is that it probably won't sell 20 million in one CY, due to changes in the marketplace and demographics and the overall impact that market driving features and forces are having on more static products like consoles. It's an observation based on, well, observation, not wishes or desires, unlike many of my "opponents" in here. The industry is making tons of money on microtransactions and mobile gaming, which is disgusting to me as a gamer, but it's still an observable fact and development, regardless of my feelings on the subject(s).

I'll glady eat my words if the PS4 sells 20 million "or more" in 2017. What does "or more" mean anyway? May I have an estimation and some reasoning behind it from you? Nothing formal, a guess will suffice.