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twintail said:
Mummelmann said:

Also; PS4 Pro sales are poor, it seems I was right in thinking that it won't be spurring the PS4 into a fantastic 2017, or the fabled 20 million selling CY.

And no one thought otherwise.

The Pro has barely had any marketting whatsoever in Japan. Even at TGS, it was regulared to a mere mention while Sony pushed the Slim. With the way the console market is in Japan, cheaper is better for consoles. Pro is just for enthusiasts in Japan. Sony knows it. We know it . And slim is doing well for them.

Seems like 4 million LTD by the end of the year is on the cards. 

Well, there are quite a few users in here who have used the Pro as a rather large part of their arguments as to why 2017 will be the PS4's peak year, why it will see the magical 20 million CY barrier broken and overall extend the PS4's life cycle a great deal. It's a common set of arguments, surely you haven't missed them?

Personally, since the beginning of the 8th gen, and even before, I never believed in another long-lived generation, I don't believe in utter domination and 100 million + selling consoles, but I've been challenged all the way, things like the PS4 Pro is/has been a large part of the counter-arguments. "How can you think that they 8th gen will be shorter when we're getting updated hardware like this?"

Look at handhelds, look at the 3DS having to re-invent itself basically on an annual basis to keep selling. More revisions was one of the predictions I made in the UNITY thread, and I also explained the mechanics behind them down to the details, and these revisions is actually an unmistakeable sign that the industry has indeed changed into a setting where static products can, will, and indeed are, struggling to really gain and maintain momentum and the writing is on the wall; this will be a shorter generation, not despite PS4 Pro and Xbox Scorpio, but because of them and the reasoning and market needs behind them.

Sorry for going all boring and slightly off point, but the PS4 Pro has been touted as the be-all, end-all of the 8th generation, by quite a few and its impact has been massively overestimated in my opinion. We still need solid figures for the West, but it won't change much in the long run even if it manages a decent "new hardware excitement" debut.