Donald Trump plainly admits to lying about his central campaign promises.

[Mr Puggsly]

BMaker11 said:

Mr Puggsly said:

No, I just wanted to focus on the part where you call me a liar and I provided you with a link.

Republicans coddle illegals? Sanctuary cities tend to be left wing.

Amazing achievments? Subjective.

My position is "wong"? Okay, not sure on what. Seems you just lump me with some random group I may not share views with.

I love that you get worked up just because I look at Obama's record and think, "meh." I'm not really attacking the guy, I just think his 8 years was kinda mediocre. This really upsets you, its great. I've lost interest in this discussion but you're gonna keep being emotional, I may stick around.

Ahh, resulting to ad hominem. "You're just being emotional". Nah, I'm just being factual. You provided exactly what I mentioned. People caught up in rhetoric. You've done nothing to refute that Republican policies have increased illegal immigration. Speaking of Republican policies, you bring up "sanctuary cities", but those are very specific areas. Reagan amnesty, Bush guest worker program, etc are federal programs, meaning they are in effect everywhere. 

15 millions new jobs. Toughest president on immigration in US history. Lowest unemployment rate in decades. Highest stock market value in decades. This is "meh" to you. Of course you've "lost interest", when you've realized it's silly to support "best numbers = mediocre". 

Edit: and regarding your positions being wrong. I haven't ever "lumped you in with a random group". I've addressed you, directly, for your claims in this thread and other political threads with sourced facts. That you so quickly forget that is another testament to conservatives just pushing facts to the side to keep their narrative going

I have nothing to refute in regard to past presidents and immigration, I'm not happy with how presidents left or right have handled immigration as a whole. That's what helped Trump, his platform was he would tougher on immigration than any president now we have to wait and see if that's the case. Otherwise, he will just be another disappointment. Understand?

Unemployment at par with pre "financial crisis" years, U-6 numbers somehow worse than Bush years, and immigration back to Bush years pre 2007. I've lost interest because we're going in circles. All in all, I'm saying meh and reluctant to credit Obama for any job creation. I think cutting long term unemployment was a good move for getting people back to work though, but Obama didn't want it.

You lump me in with your views of republicans and you expect me to defend them. But I never really said I was crazy about any president. I'm intrigued by Trump because he's something different, could be good or a disaster. We'll see.